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  1. Bawanajim

    Bawanajim Weekend Warrior

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    You do know that the ice fishing sucks in all three of those states!
     
  2. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Yeah, there seems to be quite a few strikes against NC I am finding.

    I am pretty sure Nashville area is where we will end up if it's Tennessee or West side of Kentucky
    :lmao:
     
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    Sent you a PM
     
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    I'll give you a great deal on my house and 30 acres. Is Illinois conservative enough ?? :)
     
  5. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Thanks, Matt :)
    Illinois is almost as bad as NY, Dave...wait, you were being sarcastic....weren't you? ;)
     
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    If that is a serious consideration... Live in KY, work in TN. You can be to Nashville in 30-40 mins from many areas of SC KY. Tennessee has no income tax, Kenntucky however has much lower sales and property taxes. Land is reasonable compared to nearly everywhere else in the country. Excellent Deer/Turkey hunting, Short drive to killer lakes for fishing, and you can live a rural life with a short commute to either Bowling Green on Nashville TN for work depending on what you do.

    That said, I grew up there and you couldn't pay me to move back currently. :lol:
     
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    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Why is that, T?
     
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    bloodcrick Moderator/BHOD Prostaff

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    If you take up shinin and get good at it contact me please :) KY would be my choice. Might explain barefoot and neked to the wife-e though. Its how they roll in the hills!
     
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    bloodcrick Moderator/BHOD Prostaff

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    The hunting is no good here in southern IN south west :ninja:
     
  10. MartinHunter

    MartinHunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    KY or TN....

    Too many white trash rednecks in NC [all my ex-inlaws] But really much of the state sucks just spend a little time there you will see.

    TN cheap land and no personal income tax very mild winters.. I own 100ac in TN, stay around Nashville or Knoxville avoid Memphis like the plague.

    KY cost of living not too bad land reasonable if you get out a bit Great deer hunting winters relatively mild
    I think the job market is slightly better in KY as well

    Right now the wife and I are zeroing in on KY near Frankfort or Lawrenceburg both about halfway between Louisville and Lexington...
     
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    Because I can't do this there... I may retire in the BG area... But a young guy with big dreams has no business there.

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  12. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    This is interesting....

    Best Deer Hunting State: Kentucky Takes Top Spot in New Whitetail Scale | Outdoor Life
    [h=1]Best Deer Hunting State: Kentucky Takes Top Spot in New Whitetail Scale[/h]
    by Darren Warner





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    Every year hunting magazines run stories about which states have become the latest trophy-*whitetail hotspots. There’s a problem with all of these stories: They only look at the total number of trophy bucks killed.
    The trouble with this is that states with higher deer populations and more hunters have an unfair advantage. Take Wisconsin, which has 1.5 million deer and about 14 hunters per square mile. In comparison, Kentucky has 900,000 whitetails and seven hunters per square mile. Given that about half of all fawns born are bucks, Wisconsin has about 750,000 bucks and Kentucky has about 450,000. You don’t have to be a math whiz to realize that having more bucks and more deer hunters increases your odds of having more trophy deer harvested.
    What’s needed is a real-world barometer of trophy-deer trends, and that’s what Outdoor Life is doing with our Whitetail Scale. It’s a metric that evens out some of the huge discrepancies between various states and considers trophy deer on an apples-to-apples basis.
    Instead of looking at total number of deer, our scale considers the proportion of each state’s bucks that make the Boone and Crockett record book. Because looking at just one year of data can be misleading, we also crunched harvest data from the last three years, allowing us to spot trends.
    And we look beyond the antlers. When deciding where to go to pursue the trophy of a lifetime, hunters consider other factors, like hunter density, the cost of a nonresident outfitted hunt, and even how accommodating each state’s deer regulations are.
    Factoring in these measures gives us a comprehensive and repeatable method for determining the top trophy states.
    1. MEASUREMENT: 
Trophy Production
    We started with harvest data from the 20 states with the highest number of Boone and Crockett bucks in the past three years. Each state received a score based on the percentage of harvested bucks that qualified for B&C registry. Then, because trophy production is obviously the biggest consideration for big-buck hunters, we weighted the scale to give a maximum of two points—twice as many as other categories—to states that consistently produce the most trophy whitetails. We gave the top states two points, the bottom states half a point, and the rest a single point. The way this metric works, to use the case of top-scoring Indiana as an example, is to take the total buck harvest (156,602 from 2009–2011) and divide it by the number of bucks (131) entered in the Boone and Crockett records for that same time frame.
    States with top B&C entries as apercentage of total buck harvest
    Indiana.................. 0 .084%
    Kentucky.............. 0.082%
    Kansas.................. 0.078%
    Iowa....................... 0.078%
    Illinois................... 0.065%

    2. MEASUREMENT: 
Hunter Density
    This metric calculates competition for a trophy buck. We divided the total number of firearms hunters in each state by the total land area in square miles. Hunter densities ranged from less than one hunter per square mile (North Dakota) to more than 11 (Ohio and Wisconsin).
    Five states received one point for fewer than 3 hunters per square mile, seven got .5 points for 3.1 to 5.5 hunters, two got .25 points for 5.6 to 10, and three got 0 points for more than 10 hunters per square mile.
    Firearms Hunter Density
    North Dakota..............0.8/sq. mi.
    Nebraska.......................1.0/sq. mi.
    South Dakota...............1.1/sq. mi.
    Kansas............................1.4/sq. mi.
    Iowa.................................2.6/sq. mi.

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    A 176 2/8-inch Kentucky typical killed by Brian Caubarreaux.
    3. MEASUREMENT: 
Cost of Outfitted Hunts
    Research shows that if you’re a nonresident hunter, hiring an outfitter gives the best shot at bagging a trophy whitetail. Because outfitters’ rates and offerings vary, as do the cost of nonresident hunting licenses, this evaluation was difficult to assess evenly. But it’s more consistent than the other metric that we considered: the amount of huntable public land in each state.
    For each state, we averaged the fee of three outfitters that offer a fair-chase, five-day, fully guided hunt (including lodging and meals) during the rut, and also factored in nonresident license fees.
    Not surprisingly, outfitters and game agencies in states with reputations for producing trophy deer charge more than those in states that don’t share that big-buck glow. At an average cost of $4,201, hunters will fork over the most money to hunt deer in Illinois, followed by Texas ($4,065), Kansas ($3,830), Nebraska ($3,800), and Iowa ($3,633). Kentucky ($2,590), Ohio ($2,783), and Indiana ($2,747) give hunters a good shot at a record buck for a lower price.
    Cost of Outfitted Hunts
    Under $2,600 = 1 point
    $2,601–$3,500 = .5
    $3,501 and over = 0

    4. MEASUREMENT: 
Hunter Friendliness
    Some states’ nonsensical restrictions will leave hunters scratching their heads. We gave South Dakota zero points for prohibiting the use of electronic bow-mounted devices of any kind, including illuminated sight pins. Illinois lost half a point for requiring shotguns capable of firing no more than three slugs. Most other states received a single point.
    The Winner: 
The Bluegrass State
    After tallying scores, we found that Kentucky is the clear winner. The western part of the state, in particular, is producing a ton of trophy deer, and many big bucks survive the early rut. “Hunt late in the season,” says Carl Doron, owner of Snipe Creek Lodge. “There’s nobody here.”

    Here’s our ranking of the top 10 whitetail states.
    1. Kentucky............................4.5 points
    2. Kansas...............................4.0 points
    3. Indiana...............................4.0 points
    4. Iowa....................................4.0 points
    5. Minnesota.........................3.5 points
    6. Illinois.................................3.0 points
    7. Mississippi........................3.0 points
    8. Nebraska...........................3.0 points
    9. Ohio.....................................3.0 points
    10. Oklahoma........................3.0 points
     
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    Morehead is leading the pack with the wife and I ...hey Staggs, can you say ELK? :D
     
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    Whys that, if you don't mind sharing?
     
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    We are looking for a smaller community...Morehead, at least in my initial assessment, fits a lot of things we are looking for..,mountain area, low crime , enough amenities to not feel too secluded....and not a lot of bakery competition.....again, this is my initial assessment
     
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    Oh yeah......unbelievable hunting in this area as well
     
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    YEP and land is very reasonable... everyone wants west KY because that is where all the BIG bucks are..WRONG.. or at least partly wrong, west KY gets pounded by hunters from all over the country and is where most of the outfitters are, but central KY and the areas just east of Lexington hold some monsters as well and is KYs best kept secret as far a outsized bucks...
     
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    check out the salt river valley area around Lawrenceburg as well the valley is flat[of course] but the terrain is hilly around it...
     
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    MartinHunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    here is my buddy Troy with a big KY buck...THIS ONE WAS WROTE ABOUT IN SEVERAL PUBLICATIONS....

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