To make what transition? Being a millionaire and not having to work another day of your life? That's pretty painful. I'll give the benefit of the doubt untill more info comes available. All I will say is, there are a LOT of people out there that have suffered from concussions and didn't kill themselves. Hell I've had three myself. I dont' have a clue what led to it, so I won't even speculate. But the poor ole Junior can't live without football or he had concussions, etc... is ridiculous imo.
Tembry, you seem like a man of both science and religion so think of this....if our thoughts and impulses are nothing more than chemicals being laid down over various parts of our brain, then one can imagine a scenario where the chemicals in one's brain might not be up to par, or there might literally be damage to parts of the brain that control impulsiveness and could push someone to killing themselves? People get cancer and all sorts of nasty things because of their genetics and/or genetics mixed with environmental factors, so wouldn't you agree that it would not be a stretch to imagine someone developing brain issues that could push them toward suicide? We all like to associate our internal thoughts with a spiritual dialogue and forget the science behind it. Just some thoughts man. I too, believe suicide is a chicken-a way to end one's life IF the person committing it had many other options.
I think we are just beginning to scrape the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding brain injuries. No way of knowing how his mind was working. We are definitely starting to find that multiple concussions can and do cause some serious problems. I am sure our country will continue to celebrate this sport long after we realize the fact that it is at a horrendous cost to the participants. Sad.
I have had a few concussions myself. I can attest, clear thinking is a challenge for several days after. A couple years ago, I hit my head on the escape hatch handle of a C130. I reported it to my boss right away and he asked if I needed to go to ER. I told him I didn't think so but over the next couple hours, I just zoned out. It wasn't until about 28 hours later that I kind of just snapped out of it suddenly and realized how disconnected I had been. The bad thing was that my family and co-workers said afterward they noticed I was behaving oddly but none of them took any action. Concussions are major injuries, they change us during and after the impact and studies of the longterm effects are just beginning to reveal the seriousness. Several diseases are even potentially linked to brain trauma such as Parkinsons, ALS (Lou Gehrig Disease) MS and Alheimers, especially for repetitive traumas. Junior was definitely fun to watch if he was on your team. He played with a reckless abandonment of common sense. Others such as Troy Palumalu play the same way today and maybe some rules need to be in place to calm things down some. Of course it is football and sadly, fans expect a certain amount or carnage to keep things interesting. But the human body is just not meant for that kind of repetitive and especially intentional punishment. MHO
From what have read/heard these football players suffer from cte. Cte is essentially alshiemers at a much earlier age it can also cause clinical depression. Concussions are not the cause of cte the cause is repeated blows to the head. You can go your whole life without a concussion and still develope cte. Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
One would think and asked why I've haven't considered or committed suicide with my past. Also being beaten into a near death state. Receiving multiple blows to the head and if you seen me up close you would see the indentations to my head. Non of my life indecision have ever made me wonder about it. Relationships breakups, financial woes, and even forced to live on the streets for a short period of time. Yet I've never considered suicide. I look at other people that say they caught hell and all I can say is really?? You've got money cars, houses and you'll catching hell?? Sure some people can't take relationship breakups, or the such, but it comes to up-bringing. this is wear I believe it begins and ends. There's no person that can make you more pissed off than an argument with a woman. But killing yourself over her flesh, or the financial lost. Give me a break?! Suicide cheapens ones life and the dimension of ones achievements. And only shows ones inherit flaws. No matter how we romanticize the Titanic. When a captain may go down with his ship, but a captain going down with his ship fighting with guns blazing.. now the captain of the HMS Hood 51that was a real Mother-effer! Seal team member that fell from a helicopter, that took on 30 insurgents killing 12 before help could return to help a certifiable bad azz. A man or woman that kills themselves with money, fame, and access to people for help emotionally...lame. My mother died from cancer last year and she was in pain she never asked for nothing to alleviate her of it nor anything to take her life. All she asks for was for us not to leave her alone to be with her. And we stayed with her to the bitter end. When the time came she wanted to go outside so we took her out of the closes exit by wheel chair it was 11:40 pm July 15 2011 she wanted to stand we helped her up she squeezed my hand looked up her head wobbled as she lost control of her head movement and she said "Thank you Jesus thank" and slipped away. Crying remembering those last moments. Suicide is not an viable answer, when you can fight. And that's what I call real courage. HMS Hood (51 or the RMS Titanic
I'm pretty sure that every deer Vito has ever killed was committing suicide. They simply wanted to die. We'll never know why.
Amateur: Yes, it is very sad when people choose to take their own life. I have seen way too many young people choose the suicide route over really silly reasons such as not being asked to the prom. I don't understand it either but I will say that in almost every case that I have witnessed, there were additional issues going on at home in what often seemed like good home situations. We should however, be very cautious about making judgments concerning the causes or the mindset of suicide "victims." Not all suicides occur because people are selfish. Many times, people have an erroneous notion that they are a burden to others and sincerely though wrongly believe that their death would resolve some burden. We also need to be cautious about assuming loved one's were too busy to see the signs. Believe me, the 'guilt ridden" minds of those loved ones are already racked with every possible scenario of how they could have missed whatever was going on. We should be very careful that we don't allow our opinions to cause even more pain for the family and friends who find themselves left to deal with the very difficult pieces.
I didn't really mean they had selfish intentions when committing suicide, just that the results of their suicide leaving close ones in shambles makes it a selfish act. Every...single....time. Some may not be right in the head, some may be cowards, some may think they are helping others....I hope there comes a day they all get help, but the results of suicide will always make suicide a selfish act (regardless of intentions or reasonings)
The result is almost always pain for others to deal with; that's for sure, regardless of the intention.
One of those stories you hope isn't true when you hear it... Jr. was a heck of a player, sad ending no matter what details emerge....
Concussions or not, millionaire or not, when you wake up and do something.....everyday for years upon years and then it's gone. It's tough. Same as some guys that are have been in prison for years and years getting out and then ending it or committing a crime to get back in. Was he a millionaire? There's plenty of guys out there that made it and lost it. I heard he had a successful restaurant and had raised like 4 mill for his foundation, but obviously there was something that made him do this. I'm just not gonna pull the "what an idiot, he never had to work again" card on him. There are some problems that transcend money in life. We can all say from where we sit, that it wouldn't be our way out, but until you in those shoes, you never truly know. I pray his children will remember their father for who I've heard he was and not for this horrible decision that he made. If it is something with concussions and something can be done to prevent it, I hope they find out how. Why'd he do it in the chest otherwise?
I guess I'm in the minority here. Yes I do feel bad for what happened. I feel bad for the family and friends that have to deal with the loss of Junior. I just can't accept the excuse that he has been playing football for 20 years and knows no other life. That's a reason to kill yourself? Are people being serious? You can still be a part of the game through coaching, watching, analyst, etc... You just can't play anymore. How many players have come and gone in their playing years in the NFL? Thousands!!!!!! How many had to kill themselves because they couldn't hack life without playing? ZERO! I don't even know whey this is a topic in this. And the same can be said for the concussions? Untill there is some REAL solid scientific concrete proof that something chemically went out of whack in his brain that triggered this response, I say yet again.... are you kidding me?!?! Again, thousands of players have gone through the same thing. And you know what? They didn't blow a hole in their chest. Troy Aikman and Steve Young pretty muched got forced out of the league because their head got thumped too many times. They seem to be doing pretty well with their lives. Just amazes me that these are being used as excuses. The guy had a God given ability to do what he loved to do and make a boatload of money in the meantime. Again, it's terrible it happened and obviously something seriously wrong. But these justifications are ridiculous IMO.
We all sit here and play armchair doctor while spewing our theories but there is a common relevance among us all. None of us can understand this because our brains do no function like those that take their own lives. There is not a credible source among us with enough medical knowledge to say one way or another if Seau and others could have controlled their sudden urge to end their lives. It is ignorant for any of us to assume these people took the cheap way out or were cowards. Sitting behind a computer puffing our chests and telling our stories of head trauma is easy but the fact remains, could we be victims one day ourselves? I will gladly show scars, hell I have an eye socket that never healed correctly with a barely noticeable scar. I have been hospitalized more than once for head trauma and I still haven't offed myself so I must not be a coward! While the rest of you sit back saying "it would never happen to my mangled brain" I honestly find myself petrified that I might one day lose it. I hope scientists continue researching this so we can all understand the issue and stop calling people cowards. Cowards to not play 20 years in a sport that beats the living hell out of them. Cowards do not get into a ring and allow another man to possibly beat them to death. Seau was the man and I will always look up to him. Isaiah talked to him rocking the 100lb dumbells, it takes a beast to put that weight up and a beast he was. He went out on the field and hit as hard as he could for 20 years, raised money for charity and lived a great life. Despite all of this there are signs that are similar to others who have killed themselves with possible illness caused by Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy.
I completely understand what your saying here buddy. I just wish a kid (any young kid) wouldn't have to go through this. Boy has my idea's and thoughts on life changed since I had my daughter. I could really give a **** about anything in life but her. This post has nothing to do with you as I really enjoy our friendship, It's just something that came to mind while typing it.
The last thing I would call him is a coward. Holding a gun to one's chest and pulling the trigger? To me a coward couldn't even do it. I can only imagine the pain, suffering, and mental torment that would lead a person up that kind of path.
Very well said! We all have issues, don't we? I wouldn't care to relate every issue of my doing something stupid that I swore I never would. As King David learned "we should never EXcuse in ourselves what we ACcuse in others." Jesus said it plainly, "let's remove the timber from our own eyes, then we can clearly see to remove the speck of dust from someone else's." We all have issues, we all have blind spots and we all need help from time to time, sometimes help is delayed for some reason none of us can understand and tragedy strikes hard.
I guess that the Seau's family gave permission to Harvard to study his brain. Hopefully they find something!!!!
