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Judge rules feeding deer legal, if not for hunting.

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by remmett70, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I've never been in favor of the baiting and feeding bans, but follow the law considering,,, well its the law. I don't for a second believe this guy had corn and pumpkins set out by his stands the night before season open and wasn't planning on hunting them.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...1/court-baiting-deer-legal-if-not-for-hunting

    While I may disagree with the law, it is not the courts job to change it, it is to enforce it and from all the reading I have found, the law wasn't written specifically for hunting over bait, it was for feeding deer period.. I can't figure out how a judges can make a ruling like this.

    http://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/pubs/wm/WM0456.pdf
     
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    So you can legally bait in Wisconsin in the Cwd zones along as you are not hunting over it? I'm more curious about it for giving deer minerals more than anything. Needless to say I'm going to be looking into this more

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    Screw DNR, they don't have any right to "divine" a person's "intent". They should have to catch a person in the act, otherwise they can fine or arrest anyone at any time for anything.
     
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    He was caught in the act according to the law, and intent didn't need to be determined. Illegal for hunting or recreation
     
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    As long as the law is written the way it is, I wouldn't test it. DNR says they are going to keep enforcing the bans. I'm sure it cost a pretty penny to fight this in court.
     
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    I'm sure this subject won't be the last time this will be brought up.

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    I don't have a link to the story but last week in a Minneapolis suburb Blaine, Minnesota the city has passed an ordinance banning the feeding of any wildlife in city limits with the exception of bird feeders. There is no CWD in the area the city council cited the uptick in car deer collisions in the city as the reason for the ban. Seemed kinda dumb kinda like outlawing Mac Donalds because accidents from cars leaving the parking lot.
     
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    once the suburbs grow all the way to the agriculture zones. 500 feet away from the houses for hunting , suburban folks don't know what's tresspassing and they walk on your land.
     
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    I wish they would restrict feeding in our town. My neighbor feeds the deer in his back yard. Once they eat all his corn the deer stop into my yard and chew on our trees, plants, etc. Honestly wish I could start shooting them. :tu:
     
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    Your talking about the neighbor right :evilgrin:
     
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    No comment. :evilgrin:
     
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    Maybe Blaines trying to prevent what happened in New Brighton when that guy killed his neighbor over feeding deer. People are crazy. http://m.startribune.com/deer-feeding-feud-escalates-to-homicide-in-new-brighton/258115851/
     
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    I know, I'm saying I don't agree they should have a right to outlaw feeding deer on a landowners property for non-hunting recreation.

    I've never agreed with the premise that DNR "owns" deer or wildlife in general to start with. If that's the case then they should be held liable for property damages.
     
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    "Intent" can be argued all day long and basically unless someone admits their "intent", it's not the easiest thing to prove. The article says Mr. Walker said he was feeding his dogs the corn and pumpkins. I'm by no means an expert on dogs but that seems like an odd diet if you ask me. Sounds more like pig food. And it happened to be "near" his deer stand. I'll be honest, the dog food sounds weird but I'll by no means make any judgement cause there are way too many details missing from the article to draw any educated conclusion IMO.

    Here's the part I do understand about the article.... DNR wants to slow the spread of CWD.

    Here's the part I don't understand about the article... Basically you can put out any pile of anything you want to "bait or feed" deer, just as long as you don't hunt over it??? If the ban on baiting is to slow the spread of CWD, you'd think they wouldn't allow baiting at all and it wouldn't have anything to do with hunting. Because to me it sounds like I can get 50 sacks of corn and put a nice big pile in my field for deer to flock to but I just can't hunt there. Unless I'm missing something, like a whole lot more information, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
     
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    Pumpkins are actually really good for dogs well in moderation
    I give my lab a couple table spoons. It is good for their urinary and digestive tract.

    Now I don't agree with baiting at all but unless they catch someone hunting over the bait I think there is no way they could prove anything just because the food happened to be by a stand. Maybe he was hunting another property and wanted to feed the deer on this property. I don't know how the law is written in WI but wouldn't this be like if I stopped bow hunting during firearm season and baited by my stands intending to come back later on but the dnr found it during firearm season and gave me a ticket even though I wasn't hunting it? But planned on coming back 10 days after I removed it at the end of gun season.


    Removal of bait—All bait must be completely removed for ten days prior to hunting.



    Ya he was probably hunting over it but proper evidence would be nice I don't want someone deciding what I intended to do.
     
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    That was a couple of ignorant white trash involved in that, as you can imagine.
     
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    Who thinks planting a food plant is not technically baiting ? Lol No ? Then why do it ?
    Just because its law don't mean it's right. It's not like people who throw corn sit over the corn hunting it 24/7 wiping out the herd populations.

    Frankly I don't get it. But then again I DO ! I do get to thinking a lot of these laws are both ignorant law makers who have no clue on hunting and or PETA sheeeet heads who've infiltrated government and pushing their will.


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