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Joe Paterno Statue Removed

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by The Amatuer, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. The Amatuer

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    The death Penalty is harsh enough for the Penn State college football program. It should be set down for a least of 5 to 10 years. Even though the victims are no longer kids they were at one time were children just like you and I were.

    Around Sandusky no little boy targeted by Sandusky really ever had a chance to be a child. If you still want to protect that program then ideally you're no different than Paterno looking the other way.

    After we all know what he was doing to children allowing them to suffer multiple rapes all in the name of keeping a high win ratio.





     
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    As I say everytime you post this, the NCAA should stay out of it. Any PSU punishment should be handed down through the US Justice System. This is outside the scope of the NCAAs Authority. There is NO ONE that was involved still with the University. You're letting emotions not logic dictate your thought process. The NCAA is the governing body of college athletics for competitiveness they are NOT a moral authority that should be handling criminal cases.
     
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  3. Jake/PA

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    I agree with GA. Yes Sandusky was part of the football program and used the facilities but this is way above the NCAA. The Justice System should decide the punishment.

    Its tough to say they should be given the death penalty since they cleared everyone out but I can also understand the other side.

    Personally Im tired of hearing about it and can't wait until this is over.
     
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    I totally agree with Phillip. This is a criminal matter. At tOSU, the players and head caoch were held accountable for the actions of players. This is not the case at Penn St. The players had nothing to do with these despicable, criminal acts. Get rid of the statue and all other remnants of the JoPA era. Let the justice system handle all responsible parties and allow PSU to put this behind them. It will obviously never be forgotten (nor, should it), but it's time to move on.
     
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    I agree. The one trick pony rides again!!!!
     
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    I'm glad they took the Paterno statue down. For a while, I thought PSU might just turn it to look the other way.
     
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    Logic!?

    You fail to understand what happened at Penn State is no more different than an adult soliciting a minor for sex or peddling child pornography. All under the guise of the college football program. and no organization should be able to benefit from assault, abuse, rape, murder or torture of a child.

    Irregardless if all of those involved with the program is gone a clean sweep of the entire program should be conducted and the program should be held accountable for what happened and for what those let let happen.

    And even if it had been anyone of our children from what's been posted Sandusky would have answered to higher power.

    The end clause....The school profited for more that 20 years of child abuse....The football program earned the death penalty.

    From no being morally and ethically responsible from stopping the suffering of children.
     
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    History always have a way of rearing it's ugly head again.
     
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    The program has had a clean sweep....everyone is gone. Geez you just don't get it. The NCAA has no business handing out punishment in a criminal matter. PSU should be punished through criminal and civil action. And yes your thought process is based on emotion not logic as I said before.

    It is obvious you misunderstand where I am coming from, it is not that I think PSU should go on without ramifications. The point is that it is not the NCAAs place. Leave the criminal activity to the courts.
     
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    Even organizations have a way of policing it's own. and if Penn State plans on remaining a part of the NCAA Conference then they should accept their rules. That's seductive reasoning.

    I do believe it's up to the criminal courts, but it's also the responsibility of the NCAA to say something to bring integrity back after such heinous activity. That within it's self is reaching.

    If the program is shut down then so be it. The football players played under lies and honestly if that many of the coaching staff knew. How many players knew?

    And since not all players of any college program will make it to the NFL, the law suits be cast by players that feel that they were slighted by Penn State.

    My thoughts are no based on emotions, because if that had be my child. I honestly couldn't say what I've would've done.

    I thank God for that.
     
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    Far as a clean sweep everyone down to the guys that mix the Gatorade for the football team should be replace.

    Raze the program to the ground.
     
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    :lmao: Please tell me you.... nevermind. Just forget it. :jaw:
     
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    It's obviously a lost cause.
     
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    lost in translation meant to say "deductive reasoning".

    In any case if a program flourish from the torture or assault of children it should be shut down.
     
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    Agreed!
     
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    Here's a question do you have kids...because you guys make a lot of excuses to keep that program up and running.
     
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    Here is my issue, Joe did not protect the kids, he failed. He's going to pay a price now, even though he's dead.

    At all cost we all have to protect our children
     
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    Mr. Amatuer should they burn everything that he gave to the school too?
     
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    And exactly what does the answer to that question have to do with PSU? The answer is zero. You are trying to stir an emotional response instead of letting logic guide your thought.

    So why stop with just the football program? I mean the AD knew so maybe the NCAA should shut down the whole athletic department. Oh wait!! Just shut down the whole University. I mean the President was part of the cover up too.
     
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    I can see why the NCAA is placing violations on PSU, in their eyes PSU had a competitive advantage by not bringing forward the information that they had on Sandusky. Bringing that information forward would have killed recruiting and any momentum the PSU program had. They view it as a lack of institutional control that it was sent through so many University channels and was never brought forward or that an end was never put to the abuse.

    I do not want to see the whole PSU program crash and burn. I want those who are guilty to pay. I do not think the innocent should pay for the crimes of others. Funny they (PSU fans) wanted OSU to get the "death penalty" for kids selling trinkets all the while their whole athletic department and "does it right" iconic coach were abating a felon.

    Glass houses, folks.... Glass houses.
     

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