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Jim Shockey let me down!

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by early in, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. No.6Hunter

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    Sounds like a lot of anti hunter nonsense on here, Jim Shockey is one of the biggest supporters and icons hunters have these days. If Hunting on TV was as real as we all want it to be, we would be watching season after season of silence and one or two kills.
     
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    Anti hunters because we voiced our opinion on what we saw? I guess I would rather be called antihunting than be a hero worshiping lemming.
     
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    I just like to get a rouse out of Justin. You can bet if you see him in a thread longer then a few minutes he is stewing over something.
     
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    Anti hunter? lol I havnt watched the video in question but I have seen lots of others that you know are bs.. As far as hunting on tv being real, nothing says they have to show countless hrs of seeing no deer... but how about the deer they do show are legit? Not every deer these tv guys kill have to be a monster in my book. I would much rather see them kill a ok or decent buck where you know they HUNTED for it. Not just some hunt on a over stocked deer farm (tame or not). People are so tied up in the biggest buck ever its ridiculous.
     
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    I have a few questions on the topic.

    1. Is there a size limit to a fenced in area that one would not consider it high fence hunting?

    2. If a deer is fenced within a few thousand acres and never sees that fence in its lifetime, is it still considered a tame deer?

    3. I have wild deer in my neighborhood that are not confined by a fence that I can walk on my back deck and take pictures of from 20 yards away and they don't run away. If I were to shoot one (considering it was legal to do so) would this be considered shooting a tamed deer?

    I'm asking because there are fake hunters out there who try to hide their bait piles and act like the deer just so happened to walk through, hunters who always hunt deer ranches and always get a giant buck, and even others who are led around by a guide every single hunt and are led to the deer with absolutely no pre-work done on their own. I wouldn't consider Jim Shockey (who I didn't always like mind you because I thought he made hunting too serious and too much of a professional line of work) to be any of those people. Now on his international hunts I don't think he has much of a choice when it comes to having a guide because there are certain laws for hunting in other countries, but he also knows how to scout and hunt on his own as proof in his countless other shows.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm being subjective not implicative.
     
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    That's funny!

    I looked into where he was hunting and it is indeed a Preserve, with all kinds of exotics and such. I just don't understand why a man with the credentials/stature that Jim Shockey has would need to hunt, especially whitetails, on a damn deer farm. It just think he lowered his standards doing this.
     
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    Right, they don't run away because you haven't entered their comfort zone yet. You go ahead and try to approach one of those deer and see what happens. Deer do not usually mind humans at a distance, BUT, you break that zone and the rest is history. I learned this hunting Public land a long time ago.

    It's not like the buck he shot was a young deer that didn't know the ways of the woods, it was a big mature buck that should have bolted LONG before these two guys were able to approach like they did. All I can say is Mr Shockey lost some credibility with me.
     
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    Yep, that's the place. I bet he didn't have to pay to hunt either. All that publicity....
     
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    does it really matter? Is there a difference?
     
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    I don't know. That's why I asked!
     
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    "His Nilgai area is filled with trophy class Nilgai, his knowledge of those Nilgai is impressive," Thanks Jim for the info!!!lead us to the gate!
     
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    Very good!! lol

    What really flips me out about Jim Shockey is how he became all spiritual in the last number of years. Always looking to the heavens in awe, like some kind of Monk or something.
     
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    He posted this question on his facebook page. I guess we have his answer.
     

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    That pic isn't clickable?
     
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    I guess it isn't working..... It from His face book page.

    Feb 7th ...he asks the following question. "Hunter question of the day - would you shoot??? Walking around the floor at SCI in Vegas seeing deer mounts like this one!"
     
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    So...why does this flip you out? What's wrong with that?

    Look out folks, this guy knows everything about deer and deer hunting...lol. Just kidding. But yeah, I can get just as close to these deer as Shockey did to the buck he killed yet you say there's no way the buck wouldn't have run. Who are you to say that the deer in my neighborhood have a different tolerance of comfort zone than the buck he shot has. The deer I'm talking about are mature does, sometimes a few bucks, not fawns and spikes, so I'm not sure what the difference is.
     
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