It's the teacher's union's fault

They have gone from yelling "Historic" to calling the Waukesha County Clerk a host of names and attacking her. Its no longer "Historic," its now "Fraud!"

Living here, after watching the news and listening to some people on that side, one would certainly think that. But, just because you make more noise than the others, doesn't mean you're the majority.

That is exactly the case. A great number of the silent majority did not go to the polls. Which is unfortunate.

 

Course I did my wife belongs to the teachers Union, who sent a pile of it What do you think the smiley face was for. Just so you know being in the center means I can send money to whom ever I want, look it up

I did not bring Regan into this

 

This guy explains much better than I could. He wrote this on April 6th so it was before any counts were updated. Whether the lady wins or loses it is still historic.

By Greg Sargent

In the nationally-watched Wisconsin state Supreme Court race, liberal challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg has edged ahead of conservative sitting justice David Prosser by just over 200 votes.

We still don’t know who is going to win, and we may not know for some time to come. But even if Kloppenburg loses, labor strategists argue, this will have constituted a victory for unions and Dems — proof of Scott Walker’s continuing toxicity, and of the staying power of the grassroots energy he unleashed. They’re right.

The emerging GOP spin on this race, according to Ben Smith, is that the razor-thin closeness of the contest constitutes vindication for Walker, and proof that the right can stand up to the labor goons. One GOPer tells Smith (who was appropriately skeptical) that this is a “massive bummer for the bad guys” because labor and Dems threw “everything they have” at this race.

Sure, GOPers will be able to crow if they win, but this is still mostly nonsense. Here’s why.

First, the current results reflect a massive and astonishingly fast swing of support away from Prosser and in Kloppenburg’s favor. In a primary election in February (Wisconsin judicial elections are nonpartisan, and the top two primary victors face off in the general), Prosser beat Koppenburg by 30 points, 55-25. The current results show she doubled her vote share in just over six weeks, while Prosser has lost ground. This huge shift happened for one reason: Scott Walker.

Second, it’s extremely rare in Wisconsin to oust sitting Supreme Court justices. In 2008, Louis Butler was unseated, but as University of Wisconsin professor Charles Franklin points out to me, he had originally been appointed and not elected. The last time this happened before that was 44 years ago, and it only happened three times before that since the court was created in 1852.

Third, for all the talk about labor muscle in this race, labor and Dems were actually outspent on the air by a sizable amount. According to an analysis of outside spending by the Brennan Center, the pro-Kloppenburg forces spent $1.3 million, while the pro-Prosser forces spent a total of almost $2.2 million, nearly $1 million more. You can argue that TV spending doesn’t matter that much in this race, because a lot of this was driven by on-the-ground organizing, but if anything, the race’s closeness would make it even clearer that labor’s ground forces outperformed expections.

No question, a loss for Kloppenburg would allow GOPers to claim a much-needed victory and boast that they held off labor’s onslaught. But even without a win, labor and Dems will have exceeded expectations big time, and will have proved that the grassroots energy unleashed by Walker’s overreach is still in full force. And of course, if Kloppenburg does pull this off, it will constitute a huge win that will only lend more momentum to the recall drives and confirm that Walker remains as politically toxic as ever.


UPDATE: Will all precincts counted, Kloppenburg leads by 204 votes, and she has now declared victory. What remains to be seen is whether Prosser will demand a recount.



By Greg Sargent | 01:51 PM ET, 04/06/2011

 

No, its clear what side you are on. I would be willing to bet that somewhere in your family, you have recieved the benefits of a family member being a member of a union. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

For folks like you in America, its how much you can get. Its that simple.

 

Not sure it explains anything. Most of it is obvious. Same can be said of McCain's loss to Obama. Why? Bush. Historic? No, politics as usual.

Ask in 20 years, nobody will know who posser is. Or the other.

 

Ronald Reagan

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.


I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.


The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.



He always had some great quotes.

 

This would be the main reason it rates as "historic":

 

You guys are working on getting another thread locked down....

Why must you people make things personal?

Last chance, one more insult and this thread will be shut down like the others where you guys could not control yourselves from insulting others.

 

LOLOLOL -Things are getting pretty interesting up there in WI.

http://dekerivers.wordpress.com/201...eeds-to-resign-over-botched-election-results/

 

Come on Dan, you know it was Historic, I put my 2 cents in for "Historic", A record number of voters went to the poll for a mid term, as a matter of fact it was the #1 thing Googled Wednesday across the country.
She closed a 30 point gap in 2 months time, with half the money. He's just another republican Judge on the Corporate tit, I think the Kock brothers were good for at least 800,000.00 on this one.

 

Its an opinion piece....means nothing. It even conveniently left out one piece of info....which you can see in the comments below the opinion...

 

I never said it wasn't historic....because it is. Reread what I said.

 

No doubt, it's an opinion. I am also sure more things are left out but, I think we both know that this is going to get a whole lot more interesting before it is all said done.

If you are interested in more crazy political stuff check out Wash. DC politics and all of the fallout from the last mayoral election.

Never a dull day in politics LOL.

 

Mark...its is Historic...this election shouldn't of been an issue...Prosser should've walked away with this before the first vote was cast! Look at the big picture.......

 

Guess this must be in response to post #49. I would agree, that was a little harsh. To call Duke an uneducated coward was definitely over the top.

 

Yeah Mark I was on a roll...I pretty much figured out what I like and what bows are real shooters! I figure one more bow, a 2 piece takedown and I'm good! Sure is fun I tell ya!

 

Never happened. I said his response was uneducated and cowardly.

It was.

You can be highly educated and give an uneducated response. You can not be a coward....and give a cowardly response.

Of course....you knew this (I'll give you credit for reading comprehension). I guess it was just time for you to take a shot at me, again, Fletch.

 

Actually I think it was when Duke came and called on GMMAT and myself, making it personal. No call for that. Duke knows better and should understand we all are hunters just having a conversation.

It cracks me up how relative politics are. I just got back from Ky, where someone in my family said I was a bleeding heart liberal now that I lived in MD for 16 years, just because I questioned regulation of the stock market, and the patriot act. And questioned natural gas exploration fracking techniques that ruin ground water. All the sudden I have been lumped with pelosi.

I come up to MD, and get accused of being a tea party member because I question a number of social programs like planned parenthood. Now duke is saying I am extreme right.

I can't win.

 

Your right, from that standpoint. I personally believe this governor took it too far. That sure doesn't excuse the dems from running. But sometimes I have learned that in any arguement if you take it to the point where both get mud on them, you went too far.

He overreached.

 

Annnnnnnnd we're back.....touch gloves and come out for the next round.