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Its either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton/Possibly several new Supreme Court justice

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  1. Innovative Outdoorsman

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    This.
     
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    No idea on Melania college history. Both lines could actually be correct which is often the case in politics. She could have both dropped out after freshman year, and also gone on to complete the degree. She wouldn't be the first to do so.
     
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    I heard Clinton’s spouse was a lawyer but is now disbarred for life because of a sex scandal and lying to the entire public on national tv and then federal judges. :usa:

    A Trump lying about college, if true, seems like nothing really. :tu:
     
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    I couldn't care less if she has a degree or not, I know plenty of people with verifiable degrees that are total P'sOS and are dumber than a box of hammers.
    Does it make any difference, we've had the first wookie in DC for 8 years and she's as dumb as a rock (though maybe still smarter than her hubby).
     
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    They're both noted for toned upper arms, as well.
     
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    As if he could keep the NYTimes from reporting that. Not happening. He has money, but he doesn't have a muzzle on the NYT.
     
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    No riots or violent demonstrations, kinda surprised.
     
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    I was planning on becoming President.

    Until I realized I would have Secret Service following me into the woods. No bow hunting for the rest of my life. Not worth it.
     
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    What a great night of TV, LOL Ted Cruz

    Tonight Brock Mealer speaks, don't miss it!!! When a man who was giving a 1% change to walk again, walks out on stage.
     
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    I'll pass. Having a life has so far kept me from spending any time in front of the TV.
     
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    Perhaps you need better time management, I have a great life and watch some TV also;)
     
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    My suspicion tells me tonight will be the one to watch. Last night of the convention, Trump gives his acceptance speech and they have nothing further to lose.

    Had they done something prior, the police would have locked things down for the remainder of the convention and if bad enough Kasich deploying the National Guard. I hope I am wrong though and things go off without a hitch.


    As for Cruz(not directed at you), he pretty much sealed his 2020 campaign bid in 2016 last night. If Hillary wins there is no possible way Cruz gets the nomination, ever. I voted for him in the primary and regret that now. He lobbied with the Trump campaign to speak at the convention, sure some fault goes to Trump for allowing him to go on after screenig his speech and knowing no endorsement was coming, but Cruz showed what a slimeball he truly is.

    At the beginning, so much hooplah was focused on Trump signing the pledge and vowing not to run third party and supporting the eventual nominee. Cruz, Bush, Fiorina, Kasich and I'm not sure of how many others all showed what their word is good for. None of them will last long come 2020 especially if Hillary is the sitting president.

    Rubio sucked it up and did the right thing, even if a small minute plus video.
     
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    Cruz pretty much showed his true colors last night, what jack hole.
     
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    Working a full time job and owning a side business and prepping for upcoming hunting/sports shows and doing a construction project means working till its past bed time each day. The TV hasnt been turned on in a long time. With todays web, a person can see only the things they may have a passing interest in at exactly the time they want rather than when the TV tells them. You dont have to suffer the commercials and useless junk that way too.

    Work smarter, not harder.:tu:
     
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    Also very disappointed in TC. Could have easily endorsed and done so with the caveat that the Conservatives who pushed DJT over the top would be watching and hold him accountable. Instead we got...that. Self-important, self-righteous.

    Prior to last night, TC probably had a lock on an offer for the federal bench from a Trump administration. Now, I wonder if he will even win his next senate primary. He blew what little political capital he ever earned. If DJT wins, he will make it his mission to end Cruz's career. If DJT loses, 2016 won't matter because we will never have another free election.
     
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    I hardly ever watch anything on TV, I can't stand the inane commercials. Internet is far more efficient.

    I told you all what a jackwagon Cruz was. He's a slimy wad of crap. I'm glad he revealed the real Ted Cruz before he got the nomination. I always thought Trump was a self absorbed ego-maniac and he is somewhat but a lot of that is public persona...Cruz is the opposite and personally I'd rather have the guy with Trump's family than the Cruz family's false facade. Cruz is a true lawyer.
     
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    Cruz just dug his own political grave. He will never be president with his crybaby attitude so it's probably a good thing he lost. It sucks because I liked a lot of his platform, he's just not mentally capable of being a leader. I also looked more into Gary Johnson and the more I read about him the less I like him. He recently spoke about why he was running, which is to run against Trump, but he made no mention of Hillary. He's running against Trump which is basically the same thing as why I am voting against Hillary. Anyone who hammers Trump but makes no mention of Hillary is a wolf in sheep's clothing and a joke. He's for open borders and amnesty yet he calls for tax cuts and a balanced budget. Illegals and amnesty are antonyms of tax cuts and a balanced budget :lol: . He's fiscally conservative, good on school vouchers/public education reform, and on restoring our privacy and rights, but he's a complete liberal everywhere else. His principles aren't worth my vote.
     
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    I think Cruz showed he has core principles even if it costs him his political future. I like that about him. I wanted him to be the nominee. I think Hillary beats trump, I dont think she would have beaten Cruz. I think hillary belongs in prison but I cant vote for trump. I know too much about him to do that.
     
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    Cruz took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution.
    He said to vote for the candidate that will uphold the constitution.
    If trump supporters immediately assume that doesn't mean trump... it says more about Trump as a candidate than Cruz.
     
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    We just went through his in IL during midterms on the governor ballot.

    I stick with my reasoning on that choice for the presidential campaign


    With Quinn(Hillary) you knew exactly what you were getting by voting for him. Rauner(Trump) was a relatively unknown to politics, self funded, no salary and would be hard pressed to be worse than Quinn. So far, while taking blame for an already near bankrupt state, he has had a backbone fighting Madigan, the true cancer of IL. Quinn was a yes man and did what he was told.


    My reasoning for the presidential vote. We have 16 years of Clinton/Obama to go by with the last 7 1/2 showing the disastrous path we are set to take should Hillary win, and even worse so with the plethora of justices she is likely to litter the nation with on SCOTUS and federal levels. The deck is stacked and the status quo continues through another generation.

    Trump, is an unknown on his future goals. I truly believe Congress and those he nominates to SCOTUS, the first will happen very quick and he will have to go conservative replacing Scalia, will hold him in check if he gets too outlandish.

    Trump is not going to start a nuclear war, one man alone cannot press the button. If nuclear warheads/bombs are unleashed that will be by Iran, North Korea or whatever terrorist faction that they sell the dirty bombs to.

    I don't care who you vote for, that's your right. I can assure you though, there is only one of two people that will win the election. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Hillary or Trump will be the next president.

    I have 45-50 years left on this planet, and I know without a shadow of a doubt that if Hillary wins each and every one of those years will be affected by this single election.

    I am willing to risk the next 4 years of uncertainty over 40 years of certainty with my single vote for the only person capable of beating Hillary.
     
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