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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Dan, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. buttonbuckmaster

    buttonbuckmaster Grizzled Veteran

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    You do realize you are talking about the middle east, right?
     
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    Stopped watching as soon as I realized it was just pro-Palestinian propaganda.
     
  3. Spear

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    LOL, yes. But it's the princple I speak of, not the likely result.
     
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    It was only a matter of time before the sites anti-semite popped up. It is funny you think anyone who disagrees with you is uneducated. The leaders of this country have degrees from the alledged best learning institutions in the world and they do not even know how many states are in the union. If that is educated I will pass.
     
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    Totally.
     
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    Remind me why we take the side of Israel so much?

    I really do not know. I'm ignorant on this subject.
     
  7. TEmbry

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    There are two sides to every story, and anyone (on either side) claiming otherwise is biased.... I do find it funny that Israel is getting hammered over their air strikes that hit hospitals/schools while mention of the fact that Palestinians actually USED these hospitals/schools as weapons stashes is unreal.

    I tend to agree with the views of this video though.
    http://youtu.be/8EDW88CBo-8
     
  8. dukemichaels

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    dennis prager.. The crazy right wing Christian guy. You have to be joking.. Right?

    you probably should post a video by "noted" talk show host Rush Limbaugh next to be certain of your opinion.:lol:
     
  9. TEmbry

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    Crazy concept but when you argue the "who" of a message over the actual content of the message... You may be wrong.

    I don't care if Joe Dirt delivered the video, it makes logical sense.

    I also realize arguing with you is equivalent to arguing with a parrot. Sure the parrot may be right in what he says more times than not, but he just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and will never change his mind.
     
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    Atleast it would be fact based . lol
     
  11. tfox

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    Because they are an ally in a region where we have next to none. We were instrumental in freeing them when they were getting annialated off the face of the earth and relocating them back to their homeland through talks in the middle east. And as was mentioned already, they didn't dance in the streets on 9-11.
     
  12. dukemichaels

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    Really?

    do tell. Explain to me why the who said of any message is not just as important as the content itself.

    you live in a fantasy world and I'd love to hear more about it.
     
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    I think it's because they suck up to us in a very sneaky way. They don't blow up airliners over Scotland killing a bunch of innocent people. They don't crash airliners into our buildings in New York killing almost 3,000 innocent people, some of them even Muslims. They don't put us in a position where we have to undergo all sorts of hassles at airports to prevent an Israeli terrorist from blowing up our plane. If they had the self-respect to act more like Muslims we might find it easier to dislike them.

    Also I think we tend to identify with them because they are more like us. The Jews don't murder their daughters and sisters because they date us. They don't threaten to kill you if you refuse to become Jewish. They don't kill you if you grow up Jewish and decide to become a Christian or a Rastafarian or something.

    Of course not all Jews are sweet loving people. Some of them are gangsters, thieves, child molesters, etc. And not all Muslims are primitive throwbacks to the stone age. But I've been told there are more Jews living in New York than in Israel. Do you see any of them cheering and celebrating when an Israeli terrorist blows up some buildings? The question should not be why do we support Israel. The question should be why wouldn't we?

    My ancestors living on the West Coast did not pour out into the streets and celebrate when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Yet they were rounded up like criminals and confined in camps for the duration, although some of the young men were drafted into the military and served honorably in defense of our country.

    Why aren't the people who celebrated the deaths of innocent Americans not, at least, asked to leave our country?
     
  14. dukemichaels

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    Incorrect. Blatantly too.

    pick up a book and try again.
     
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    Well then why don't you enlighten us with your vast knowledge of the subject, instead of short quips of " nope your wrong" because until then your bucket has a hole in it and isn't carrying any water.
     
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    That would depend on who writes the book. I hear rush has few, try reading them.

    God I can't stand elitist attitudes
     
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    I don't really think we do. It just so happens that we have foreign relations with them like 99% of the rest of the world. Recently our administration has distanced themselves from Israel, not in the best or classiest fashion mind you, but probably for the best because we put our nose into everything and this is one thing we don't need to be involved with. We should take the stance of encouraging peace because I think this world is tired and exhausted from all the conflict. I think Israel is quite capable of defending themselves anyway.

    P.S. to the person who claims we aren't allies with Israel... :lol: we've been non-Nato allies with them since George H.W. Bush. Before you go calling someone ignorant you better have the facts to back it up.
     
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    This apple is red.

    Doesn't matter if Einstein or Joe Biden said it... Either way it was correct.

    Instead of ripping the guy in the video (who may be the biggest tool on earth for all I know, it's not relevant)... How about pick out where his video is factually inaccurate.

    You always thump your chest over intellectual superiority without ever adding substance to the discussion and actually showing the other side how they are wrong.
     
  19. tfox

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    What part is not true.
     
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    I'm pretty sure we are allies with Israel due to the fact that they don't hate us like all of their neighboring countries do. Also, a Palestinian would be much more likely to decapitate the average American than an Israeli would.
     

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