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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Bootlegger, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. Bootlegger

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    I have never seen Yoke cables wrapped around each other like this? The guy that installed my new string did it like this.

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    I have never seen anyone do that before.
    I would ask him why he did that. Also check your poundage and your timing or cam lean to make sure they are still right.
    I will ask at the shop tomorrow What Pse is that?
     
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    I have never seen it done like that before. I doubt it will make it shoot any different cause it should still get an even pull up on the upper cam/wheel. Only thing I would be worried about is possible wear from string on string contact with no serving there.
     
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    Looking at the picture a little closer it looks as if the red yoke cable might be just a hair closer inboard to the riser than the grey so it could possibly cause just a little bit of cam lean on the upper cam/wheel. Like Michael said I would just take it to a shop and make sure there is no cam lean and make sure everything is still tuned out good. Hope it works out for you.
     
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    The " Pro Shop" Did it like that...lol. I bought ordered a new bow press today. Gotta fix that and and also my cam is over rotated. I know the timing marks are for reference only...but it way too much off. After he put the string on when I'm at full draw it's real jumpy now and wasn't like that before either. I broke down and ordered me a new EZ press this morning...should be here Thursday. It was just easier to take all my bow to the shop...but Since the good archery shop closed down last year guess I'll just start doing my own now....lol
     
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    I don't see whats wrong with it? It looks just like the typical yoke cable set up? my Black Ice has its yoke cables twisted around eachother and so have all my single cam bows. Am I looking at the right thing? :/
     
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    Yep....never see one that in 19 years of bow hunting...lol.
     
  8. Bow String Depot

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    When you get your press, Press the bow and leave one side of the yoke on. Unwrap the other around it. What has happened is he put some twists in the cable and not in the dog legs of the yoke.


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    Oh btw when you are done untwisting the yoke put a few twists in the leg and then check Idler lean.


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    It would seem that by leaving the twists in the cable would be a good thing as if you unwarp them and then they are pulled tight they could possibly flair the serving apart? due to each leg being stretched apart straight out of the top of the serving. Just a thought.
     
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    Thanks, That is what I was going to ask you...lol. One Red leg is twisted a lot and the Silver one is not at all after they separate...know what I mean? It's all good...can't wait for the press and won't have to worry about all that stuff....lol.
     
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    What the shop did is tried to take out your idler lean. They untwisted the silver yoke leg and twisted the the cable from the bottom. You need to put the bow in the press relax the tension a little or enough to get the silver leg off. Unwrap the yoke legs and put 6 twists in the silver leg. Once you have done that Draw your bow back and see if it has any lean. If so twist the yoke legs to correct. Also ATA does not have to be dead on. It can be a 1/4" more or less and that will be fine.
     
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    Your problem is that the twists your dealer put in your yoke were the wrong direction...if the twists in your cable are CW looking from the bottom...up....the yoke should twisted CW looking from the top..down.

    That will allow you to put twist on the riser side without any on the shelf side if needed for idler lean
     
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    Yeah thanks I forgot about that bownazi, I do it when I build and ship them but I forget to mention it every time thanks.
     
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    I think they were setting the timing, but yes, they twisted from the bottom.

    Recheck timing when you fix the twist. Even 1 cams have timing or sync or whatever someone wants to call it.

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    On a single cam bow you use the yoke to adj idler lean and the amount of twists used in the cable and/or string to adj or control cam timing (rotation)...while maintaining the correct ATA & BH
     
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    I don't know anything about bows. Just after garden variety critters.

    But, if I took my bow into the shop to get a new string put on, and they did that, I would tell them I wasn't going to pay for it. If I had already paid, I would ask for a refund, and tell them to fix it the way I asked. If they still had a tantrum, I would probably quit using a bow and display it over my mantle like a big buck head....
     
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    My brand new hoyt carbon element came in like that from the factory.

    Of course I fixed that and the timing but called my string guy that night.



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    Why, it takes literally about 10 seconds to "fix" ?

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    Is the really a big deal? Looks like someone twisted the cable from the bottom of the yoke....setting the rotation maybe? in any event it would take less time to fix it the it took to type this. Could have been inducing lean also but I cant see why if it was attached to the idler.... in any event its no big deal.
     
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