Is the US still in trillions of dollars of debt?

If anything else, college sure was fun! My college pandora's box is shut, locked, and the key thrown away.

 

I did go to college, after 4 years in the marine corps. I was a college athlete as well, like many other people on here. Most of my good friends are from college, and i cannot think of many if any of them that are in a career in which they majored in.

And by the way i am doing gooder, my family lives a more than comfortable life without a 4 year degree between me or my wife. I always make fun of my wife because she went to a community college, now that she is approaching the 6 digit mark she is laughing at me.

 

Well that settles it, a college degree is a waste of time.

Although your post made me think of this...

 

Just wondering if anyone else learned more intangibles from their college experience than what was taught in a classroom? I was a psych major, Gee whiz... I guess being able to get along with people and being able to understand them at a personal level is useless in the work place since I am not a practicing psychologist. College is about so much more than just learning subjects... it's got a lot to do with learning about ourselves and doing well within the context of the broader society. It would be a shame to miss that. Just a thought.

 

What a Liberal Elitist

I would give my left nut to be back at college again

 

I am still laughing.

I wonder if my CPA went to college. Just curious, did my attorney have to go to college? What about my bank president? This is awesome, my oldest son is supposed to go off to college this Fall to become a biology teacher and now I can tell him not to waste his time!

 

Yeah, you caught me.

I'd be careful about giving away your body parts though, you may have to use them to purchase mandatory health insurance later.

 

I have insurance, I am a responsible American, just ask Romney

 

If he's smart he will not become teacher, unless he's thinking college to teach at.

 

Actually, he is a straight "A" student and will have the ability to do whatever makes him happy. He has already signed a 4 year scholarship for academics and cycling. He has considered going on for his doctorate so he can be a professor at one of those useless universities and also coach cycling. I know a lot of very happy teachers that enjoy a very fulfilling life.

What would make you think being a teacher was a poor profession? Keep in mind, not all schools are inner-city, and not all people are driven by high salaries.

Just curious what your thought are.

 

My wife is a damn good teacher, she is great. The way we treat teachers is just plain rude these days. It's not the money but the lack of respect, parents not caring and being blamed for why little johnny cannot learn. Right now state governments are treating teachers like ****.

 

IMO teachers should be paid way more, so we attract the best. Just like all the countries do who are kicking are ***.

 

I see. I also agree that far too many parents dont do their part to support teachers. Good teachers are definitely underpaid. But, there are a lot of teachers anymore that seem to have gone into the profession so they can skip out at 3:30 and have their summers off. I see it a lot. I wish there was a good method for performance pay.

 

Fletch, my wife's entire family are teachers. Her parents taught 30-35 years in the county system. I believe they may be the only married couple to have ever both won the Washington Post teacher of the year award. Currently, my wife and her three brothers are all teachers in the county system. Five out of the six of them have their masters in education. They believe it is a calling and all of them could have gone on and done something different as they all attended top notch colleges. If your son wants to be "just" a public school teacher, tell him to go for it. We need more guys like him teaching our kids.

 

Yeah, college is a waste: Check out this loser:

Christa McAuliffe was a civilian mission specialist aboard the Challenger Space Shuttle, and died with the rest of the seven member crew when Challenger exploded 73 seconds after launch on January 28, 1986.

Christa McAuliffe graduated from Framington State College, Massachusetts, in 1970 with a degree in history. A dedicated junior high school teacher (she taught history, social studies and civics), Christa McAuliffe was also a volunteer with her church, a Girl Scout Leader and a hospital and YMCA fundraiser.

Christa McAuliffe was scheduled to teach two lessons from the space shuttle. She was part of the NASA Teacher in Space project, selected as its primary candidate in 1985. She won out over 11,500 applicants; NASA officials were reportedly especially impressed with her course on "The American Woman" which she had developed and taught. Barbara Morgan was the backup "Teacher in Space" who also trained with NASA in the astronaut training program.

When Challenger exploded 73 seconds after takeoff, millions of horrified schoolchildren and adults were watching from schools, homes and offices worldwide.

Her husband Steve and their two children, Scott and Caroline, survive her.

Christa McAuliffe's alma mater, Framingham State College, established an education center in her honor

 

If we want more people like him, we need to change how parents view teachers and public. I honestly would not do it, how my wife does it is beyond me. Seeing her work to 1:00 am morning 3 to 4 days week and getting nothing but slapped in the face by parents and our state is crazy. I am so tired of the bad teacher argument.
Until we as a nation start to respect teachers, I would tell anyone not to do it. My wife has won teacher of the year twice and spent a weekend writing the curriculum for math department because no one had done it for years.

To see a person with her passion for teaching beat down is a crime. It's not the teaching of the kids that had her beat down, it's the way parents, public and our legislator treats them.

 

My wife switched over to teaching ESOL (English as a Second Language) a couple of years ago and loves it. She is a resource teacher that helps bridge the gap for non-native speakers as they progress through the system. The kids rarely give her problems in terms of disrespect.

 

Thanks for the response. He has gone to the gradeschool and worked with 3rd graders for two years now and the teachers of those classes say he has a real gift for teaching. He worked with a group that was behind on their reading skills and in a few short weeks, had them to a point where they were able to skip an entire level and caught them up to the better readers in the class.

Germ, you certainly make valid points and it is definitely a concern of mine. However, we can turn our backs on the problem and let the system go in the tank, or we can continue to encourage quality people to do their very best for the students and continue to work towards the greater good. It is going to take top-notch teachers like your wife to keep fighting the good fight and get through this bump in the road.

 

I have a teaching degree. I worked a full time job while going to college, when I graduated and started to look for a teaching job, I soon realized that I would have to take a $10,000 pay cut from where I was to take a job teaching. The sad part, is that I was working for Lowe's as a kitchen designer. I was making $10,000 more working a retail job, that's sad in my opinion. I chose not to take the cut, as I was married and had a child by the time I graduated. My degree did get me a better job, even though my job has nothing to do with my major.

 

While I completely disagree with your statement here, I think what I find most appalling about most folks with this opinion is that they assume that the only reason for and "benefit" from college is the degree.