Is the US still in trillions of dollars of debt?

O'bama certainly doesn't think so being he released $197,000,000 of aid to the Palestinians.

I don't understand from an economic point of view, an abandoning your own countrymen viewpoint, or this type of viewpoint.........

In addition to many other chicken-a attacks, the attack on the US Marine Barracks in Beirut......




Where have the gravel in your guts type of politicians gone these days? Goodness we live with such pansies.

 

Borrow from China, give to Palestine.... make sense

 

Lets pray Romney has some common sense.

 

Pray hard

We have not had anybody in office with common sense in a long time.

Best thing we can do is vote anybody in congress out!!!!

 

"Best thing we can do is vote anybody in congress out!!!!"

That would be a great start.

 

The U.S. has given about $9 million per day to the state of Israel since 1973.. and a whole lotta nothing.. zilch.. zero.. to Palestine.

Add the numbers.. look it up.. what have you.. but Obama is certainly not getting us broke with this deal.

The past four decades of presidents have done FAR worse in this sort of matter.

Obama is actually just enlightened on the situation in that region.. unlike more than half the American population (Jewish excluded).

Hey.. I'm not for giving out American taxpayer money either.. but $197,000,000 to people who need it is not the worst thing in the world.

What about the more than triple that we give to Israel each year.. and they certainly don't need it.

 

^^^ I find it hard to believe that Obama is enlightened in anything outside of taxing the haves, and giving to the growing percentage of have nots in order to get re-elected.

Take more from people who work hard to make a six figure living, and give more handouts to those that are too lazy, substance addicted, or feel entitled to live a six figure lifestyle, yet don't want to work for it.

What happens when the people who do hold jobs decide they'd like to take a ride on gravy train that is the socialist Obama agenda? Who's tax dollars can they collect then?

And don't get me wrong, I understand there are people out there that honestly can't find work in their field. I understand there are folks that flat out don't make a lot of money and need assistance. That's fine, give those people the aid they deserve. Unfortunately, those two cases aren't the majority of the population receiving government aid.

 

Clinton sold us up the River to China, now Obama has his chance to earn some Clinton type bucks, and Romney made his money doing what?

Let's face it. The last time anything said MADE IN THE USA that meant anything was in 1982.

From the NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Sunday, Sept. 10, 2006 6:13 p.m. EDT

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

[video]http://archive.newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3[/video]

One of the offers took place during a secret meeting in Washington, the same day Clinton was meeting with Lewinsky in the White House just miles away.

On Feb. 6, 1996, then-U.S. Ambassador to the Sudan Tim Carney met with Sudanese Foreign Minister Ali Osman Mohammed Taha at Taha's home in the capital city of Khartoum. The meeting took place just a half mile from bin Laden's residence at the time, according to Richard Miniter's book "Losing bin Laden."

During the meeting, Carney reminded the Sudanese official that Washington was increasingly nervous about the presence of bin Laden in Sudan, reports Miniter.

Foreign Minister Taha countered by saying that Sudan was very concerned about its poor relationship with the U.S.

Then came the bombshell offer: "If you want bin Laden, we will give you bin Laden," Foreign Minister Taha told Ambassador Carney.

Still, with the extraordinarily fortuitous offer on the table, back in Washington President Clinton had other things on his mind.

A timeline of events chronicled in the Starr Report shows that during the period of late January through March 1996, Mr. Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky was then at its most intense.

On Feb. 4, 1996, for instance - two days before Ambassador Carney's key meeting with the Sudanese Foreign Minister, the president was focused not on Osama bin Laden, but instead on the 23-year-old White House intern.

Their rendezvous that day included a sexual encounter followed by a leisurely chat between Clinton and Lewinsky, as the two "sat and talked [afterward] for about 45 minutes," according to the Starr Report.

Later in the afternoon that same day, as Sudanese officials weighed their decision to offer bin Laden to the U.S., Clinton found time to call Lewinsky "[to say] he had enjoyed their time together." If there were any calls from Clinton to the State Department or Khartoum that day, the records have yet to surface in published reports.

The Feb. 4 encounter with Lewinsky followed a period of intense contact detailed in the Starr report in interviews with the former White House intern, including a sexual encounter on Jan. 6, 1996, several sessions of phone sex during the week of Jan. 14 - 21, and another sexual encounter on Jan. 21.

 

Of course you do.. you're so involved in the right wing media that it's blocking your ability to be rational.

Please.. that wasn't an insult.. it's easy to get caught up in either sides ridiculousness.

But.. I shall explain your above irrational.

First.. the argument that Obama is giving money from the rich to the poor is not really backed by any facts. He's merely trying to change the tax code so they can't get away with paying (what some of them do) just 1-20% of their income. Not saying I agree.. just giving the fact.

Second.. the idea that their are millions upon millions of people looking for handouts is a hyperbole... it is simply not true. In any term and every term of every president there are always those looking for handouts.. and that will be true long after we're all dead. So stop exaggerating and inflating numbers.

Third.. if we're to truly discuss socialism vrs. capitalism we must be fair.. and understand that it works both ways. Here's the irony.. to the rich it does not.

I mean.. give $5,000 to a poor family in food stamps and we (as a society) cry socialism.

Give AIG.. a publicly traded company a bailout of $70 billion and its called capitalism. Huh?

In capitalism.. crap fails.. deal with it.

I'm not saying Obama is the answer.. I'm saying open your eyes to the truth that's out there. Let's stop fighting about pennies that are going to those who need the money and start getting all revolutionary like to those rich who steal (blatantly) from each and every one of our pocketbooks.

$197,000,000.. to an entire nation of people that are being slaughtered each day is a drop in the bucket... I don't see any threads starting about the more than $3 billion we give Israel each year.

 

I don't even know where to begin with this it is so off base.

What has Clinton and Bin Laden have to do with the above conversation?

Are you saying he's an idiot who should have taken out Bin Laden when he had the chance.. stupid democrat?

Of course the argument (using your rationale) would be.. another democrat eventually took him out.. not a Republican.

And the China thing... seriously.

Understanding economics is MUCH deeper than a view from the cheap seats of a political agenda... right or left.

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/art...r_the_loss_of_manufacturing_j obs_99345.html

 

You all raise very good arguments to support your position on this topic. Each man is entitled to his own opinion be it far left, far right, or in the middle.

I'm dropping out of this one.

 

Mike, my main point is this.....we have people that are being "slaughtered" each day right here in a America. GIVE them the darn money for goodness sake. And not to be extremely callus, but I don't care if the palestinians are getting lit up and "slaughtered" as they bring a lot of that on themselves.

 

No.. the Palestinians are not figuratively being "slaughtered".. they really are. As in.. like shot at and killed in the streets for no reason and have so for more than 50 years.

How do they bring being killed in their own country upon themselves Brett.. enlighten me.

 

My point was more of a question because it's fact of Clinton Whoring at a crucial time....Would the World Trade Center Buildings still be standing had Clinton taken Bin Laden when Sudan offered his capture back then?

I have to say yes. May be...Just maybe my elderly neighbor wouldn't plant flowers all day in the Spring and Summer. For what you don't see her husband was on the plane that hit the Second Tower. I've live a few houses down from her for over 3 yrs and never knew....Very sad to see her some days.

We also know the attack on the World Trade Center was the worst economic if not the worst economic event in the US History.

It just sickens me how our politicians Republican or Democrat will sale out this country for an eff-ing dollar or....

OR A FAT PIECE OF TAIL. Viagra anyone?

 

I am not worried about them literally getting slaughtered as there are many other people on earth being killed each day in much the same manner. They bring on the killings by their use of suicide bombs which kill innocents in Israel.

Again, I would much rather US money stay here in American to help our people.

 

I'm with you Brett. We gotta take care of our own 1st. The big shots in office gotta quit being big brother to everyone outside of this country.

 

Imagine Brett you are in Virginia.. your home.

The state (your home) starts to see an influx of people from other parts of the world.

Suddenly one day they declare they're a different state within your state and annex about 30% of Virginia to call their own.

Slowly... day by day and year by year they begin to want more and take more land at free will.. all the while they receive billions in aid and ammunition from the most powerful country on the planet while your home of Virginia gets none. Your dirt poor scrounging for a meal and they live like kings..

Fast forward 100 years and they now control about 75% of Virginia... receive billions still.. steal land from the natives literally by killing families and demolishing the homes of your neighbors.

They even build a wall 25' high and surround your 25%... allowing you to barely move out of your quarantined space. At night you cannot even turn on lights because snipers shoot at lighted silhouettes.

You tell me what you would do.

Would you think you were the bad guy for blowing up "innocent" people.. or would you have so much hatred for what has been done to you, your Virginia and your family that you would try and take every last one of them with you.. calling yourself a revolutionary?

Your call chief.

 

So why not begin with... why do we give Israel $3 billion?

 

Easy call, chief. (What is, YES Alex.)

There are ways of going about War, suicide bombing innocent people isn't one of them. Justifying a terrible mistake in giving $200 million to Palestine by saying so what we have given billions to Israel is stupid. I'm SICK of hearing about the limitless money pouring into the economies of countries that despise us on a cellular level. Both are huge mistakes.

It's like saying "so what my dog pissed all over the couch, I mean it's not as bad as the **** he took on the kitchen floor this morning."

 

Do you get your one sided two-dimensional history and politics from comic books?

I’ll explain.

The use of quotations around the word innocent reveals the fact that they’re not really innocent… since they’ve been killing innocent Palestinians since they started immigrating to Palestine… at that point they are murderers committing a mass genocide of an entire race of people. .. losing all innocence... hence the quotations.

Next time I’ll spell that out better for our slower readers.

Furthermore… Palestinians’ don’t despise us… they despise the fact WE (Americans) GIVE the money that is used to kill them and take away their homes… and have been doing it since WWI. The greater majority hates that we ignore their will to live.. and with damn good reason.

Good use of an analogy that doesn’t apply.

Try again… but this time bring facts.