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  1. CToutdoorsman

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    So I set up my Halon this past year and got it all tuned and shooting straight, for Christmas I got a new HHA Kingpin and I love it but I but noticed about a week ago that when I line up my arrow and my sight the sight is way off to the left. I'm still very accurate I was just wondering if that is common to what other people have on there set ups, the reason I ask is with all my other sights I just had to line my site up just to the left of my arrow and I was set but with this i'm off 2 or 3 inches to the left.
     
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    What is the draw length? And have you ever been measured for your draw length?
     
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    I did the wing span test and it measured out to 30 inches but I shoot 29 inches with a D loop and it feels comfortable for me but no I was never properly measured for my draw length
     
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    Right hand shooter right? I am no expert but it would not hurt to have somebody that knows proper form look at how you shoot.
     
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    You could also check your spine to make sure that is correct based on your pounds and draw length. If your spine is incorrect it may move where your arrow hits. Therefore could be out of tune. Also as Sota mentioned, form can also be a factor.
     
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  6. CToutdoorsman

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    Yup Right handed shooter
     
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    Changing the sight should not make 2-3" difference unless something else got messed up during the process. My best guess would be your rest got moved.
     
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    its not my shot that is two or three inches off it is where my rest sits compared to my arrow ill see if i can post a picture.
     
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    I was referring to your sight alignment. Something has to have changed to account for that much shift. when you first put the sight on and rough aligned it as you normally do, how far off was your arrow on the target? For you to need to shift the sight 2" I would guess you were Feet off or probably missed the target completely.
     
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    it was about two feet off I aimed for the heart on my 3d target and basicly hit it in the butt
     
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    Is that a peep in the string? don't know if it is just the picture but it looks high.

    My guess is still that the rest got moved.
     
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    Yeah that's my peep I am pretty sure the way my anchoring point is the high peep works for me that's one of the things I had setup at the shop was my peep sight.
     
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    I would suggest, if you have your other sight yet, put it back on and see what the result is.
     
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    There are a factors that cause this and others that add to it.

    First is right handed shooters will always have their pin to the left of the string due to torque in the bow caused by roller / cable guards and the riser flex at full draw. These cause lateral nock travel issues.

    Other factors that can cause this
    Over spined arrows
    Scrunched up bow shoulder at full draw.
    Your peep sight being crooked at full draw.
    Pushing to hard with your bow arm at full draw pushing your shots left causing you to chase them with your pin.
    To much cheek on the string causing issues with your lateral nock travel.
    A bow hand that is not relaxed causing bow torque again affecting your lateral nock travel.

    Other than the first one I listed which is out of your control see if any of these apply to you.
     
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    I would agree with these when setting up a bow from scratch, but not just for changing a sight.
     
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    Here is my Halon 7.[​IMG]

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    It very easily could be a form issue that is showing up due to not shooting over the winter.

    I should have added, which is very inportant. The 3rd axis is probably not set correctly and you are canting the bow.

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    If your rest and sight are off that much you need to do a french tune. If you do this it will get you lined up correctly and your left/right will be good. If you have never done this there is a ton of info out there, but the condensed version is:

    Hang a weighted string/strip of electrical tape, etc. in front of your target
    Stand just 6 FEET from the target and try to shoot the string...move your SIGHT left/right until you split the string
    Once you hit the string from 6 FEET, back up to 10yds, Shoot for the string again, this time moving your REST left/right until you split the string.
    Once you're hitting the string at 10yds, you can back up and double check/fine tune from as far back as you like (I usually stop at 20yds). Once you're set there, your windage is set, and will be good from 0-ifinity.

    Sometimes people get their rest set, and only move their site to get their left/right adjustments done, this usually causes the issue your having (sight and arrow being misaligned). The other thing is, if you put a new sight on then you definitely need to run through this process. If you do the French Tuning it will bring everything together, line everything up, and will help your accuracy big time.
     
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    I figured out the problem I had an extra twist in my string so i got that fixed and my arrow came back to the right I adjusted and now things are smooth I am still going to french tune it to get the left and right down. Thanks to everybody who helped me out!
     
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