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Is Crossbow Marketing Doing More Harm Than Good?

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  1. SCFox

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    It’s not considered a firearm, but I believe that it has to do with the trigger. Before anyone jumps in and brings up handheld releases, it sounds like they are going after that as well.

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    Really? If you set a target and shoot at ranges from the stand and dialed in how hard is it. I also do not buy into nerves when shooting at a deer big buck or doe. Think clearly act shoot straight.
     
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    Yes, "shooting" and "hunting" are VERY different. There's no true adrenaline rush when you're just "shooting". Yeah, there may be a bit if a rush because you're about to beat out your friend for bragging rights for a while, but your heart doesn't feel like it's trying to beat it's way out of your chest when you're just "shooting". Your adrenaline-affected vision doesn't make the pin you're using appear to be half as big as your target when you're just "shooting". You don't feel like you need to control your breathing so the deer in front of you doesn't hear you but you're not getting enough air through your face mask when you're just "shooting".

    There is no comparison between "shooting" and "hunting". Saying they are the same is like saying $1 Texas Hold'em night with your buddies from work is the same as competing in the World Series of Poker. (Disclaimer: I don't play Poker, (or card games at all for that matter) so that might not make total sense.)

    Seriously, if I ever get to the point where having a big buck in front of me doesn't get me shaking and more rattled than competing against the best shooters I've ever competed against, I'll box my bow up and ship it to you free of charge because at that point I've lost what hunting is really all about.
     
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    I think it’s the number of arrows shot in competitions that make the difference. If you don’t practice a lot your shots will start to break down after a period or x number of arrow and that’s where pro start to shine.


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    All this time I thought hunting was about putting good high quality meat in the freezer. Learn something new every day.


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    I have been an Incident Commander on 100's of wildland fires called in retardant planes as well as helicopters and ground forces in what is called the urban interface houses next to swamps and woods. You learn to block out reacting to the situation emotionally, honestly does not matter buck or doe I have an objective to take a mature buck, emotions do nothing but interfere with that. You can can have all the emotion you want after the shot but before is counter productive. Think clearly act decisively.
     
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    No, it probably doesn't take much practice to for most people to shoot accurately at foam. All of the off season arrows are for developing muscle memory. When the moment of truth comes and you're not thinking clearly, muscle memory takes over. You can't develope muscle memory in 5 arrows. Practicing for hunting is not about becoming more accurate, it's about muscle memory and training your body act subconsciously.
     
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    Muscle memory is soooooo much harder to do with a modern compound bow.

    Crossbows make you resistant to buck fever and target panic.


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    you guys are giving yourself way to much credit and over complicating it.


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    Who ever said their season prep involved shooting 5 arrows?
     
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    If that were all it was about I would just raise a few head of cattle and save a ton of money every year.
     
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    I think you are underestimating that cost of angus calves, if you bought two you have over a $1000 invested just to start out.
     
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    I think you are underestimating how much I spend every year on deer hunting.
     
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    Around my location in Michigan, as I started bow hunting a small piece of private and a few sections of public the first season crossbows were limited to handicapped and elderly. The following year they were legal for anyone to use, and while I necessarily dont have a problem with it overall, I do prefer it being limited to those that are unable to shoot a traditional or compound. In our area we saw a jump in the numbers of hunters during archery season on public, mostly the people who only hunt the 2 week firearm season and those who shoot anything that has 4 legs and a pulse (that is a very common practice around my area). Its been bad enough with people of that mindset in our area during firearm season, that sight in their rifles/shotguns 2 days before the opener, and then still take question shots with equipment they haven't spent enough time with. To have that spill into the 6 week archery season before the gun opener has been a bummer for the people that take the time and effort to improve on their skills and setups. I quit hunting public and focused on more smaller private parcels, but the last year on public I came across more fatally wounded deer in the spots most people weren't willing to go while trying to put myself on deer. I realize its not like that everywhere, but when people see the 100yd advertisements that are uneducated on the subject, they are thinking shotgun speed or ability, get it sighted in, put it in the closet and pull it out opening day. Obviously this is just my impression of my area, but things could be improved upon to educate the people who dont know. The day i shoot a crossbow is the day i cant draw my compound at a efficient weight to get the job done, solely for the fact that I love archery in general and enjoy the challenges that come along with it.
     
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    I was working with an 8yr old boy yesterday,in the range. He’s been shooting a Genesis bow for about 6 months. Ten yard groups of 6-8”. Throw a couple balloons up there and he’ll hit one every few arrows.

    While the boy was shooting, I was also sighting in a modern Xbow. After I sighted in in at 20yds, I had this boy come over to shoot it. He had never seen a crossbow in person and certainly had never held one or shot one. I ran through safety aspects of the bow and made sure he and his dad were comfortable with him shooting it. I put a small balloon down range at 20yds. First shot, missed the balloon by a half inch. Second shot, direct hit.

    So by your logic, he is absolutely ready to hunt. All he needs to do is think clearly and shoot straight.

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    Not at all, my comment pertained to my experience not an 8 year old kid.
     
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    Well there is also being in the woods, Connecting with nature, etc..
    If you spend that much on hunting you really have no room to talk about public land hunters using any kind of weapons you buy your advantages one way they buy theirs another. I


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    Agreed. Being in the woods and "connecting with nature" are good reasons to hunt, but those things could easily be accomplished with a simple camping trip.

    I tend to do things my own way. Some folks may look down on me for it, but I couldn't care less about that. I do what I enjoy doing. I hunt to hunt and to enjoy the thrill of the hunt. I get just as excited when a doe is coming in as I do when it's a buck. I don't need to kill a "wall hanger" to feel successful.

    As to your other point, you will NEVER find an instance where I've said a single thing against anyone's choice of legal weapon or legal hunting method on public land or any land for that matter. I just happen to have commented in a crossbow thread. :)
     
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    Ok, because I wasn’t sure what point you were trying to make and my apologies for grouping you in with the elitist trolls on here.


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