Is Corporal Punishment For Misbehaving Appropriate in School?

8 track!?! I went from a reel to reels and 33 1/3rds to a 4 track. 8 tracks right before graduation and then cassettes when I was in the military. We thought we are all that when we bought those auto reversing cassette decks.

 

No feet? I thought you didn't have hills because there was no dirt yet?

 

Dude, you hittin the sauce awful early aint ya?

 

I laughed.

 

Some kids need their ***'s handed to them but I'm on the belief that It's not the teachers part to be doing that. When I was In school 20+ years ago It was easy to pick out the kids at school who had zero discipline from their parents at home. They were always disrespectful to the teachers. I was no angel In school but I had respect for the teachers.

 

100x Yes!


... of course I don't have kids.

 

I think teachers paddling kids most likely would go as far as perhaps the 5th grade. I haven’t had a kid of my own who was a 5th grader for many years but even back then, Politically correct, liberal, socialist, mamby pampy , softies had already infiltrated public education so no, I did not want that ill equipped bunch of goof balls disciplining my kids as they were sure to get it wrong and send mixed messages to my kids on what proper discipline is. That is better left to me as I more often than not employed much more effective methods than the school would have provided.

I spanked my boys very rarely because they knew early on how to behave. We get the kids we deserve. I was more inclined to teach by example by using logic, reason and the power of the mind to get the message through to my kids. This takes time and a very intimate knowledge of the person you are molding and building. The school is not equipped to properly discipline kids. There are some behavioral, education and modification techniques I am particularly proud of that only needed to be applied once (followed by a discussion of what and why to really let it sink in) They got the message and did not repeat the bad behavior. Schools don’t have that kind of time. As such, the schools did not have to spend time disciplining my kids since they were busy disciplining other kids.

 

So, if a child misbehaves in school and his/her parents do nothing to correct or are ineffective in rectifying the situation the teachers are still the ones who have to deal with it. Can't kick them out because the government guarantees a free education to each child through 12th grade. Depending on what state you live in, at a certain age they can be expelled, but until then how do you correct the behavior without causing the taxpayers more through alternative schools?

 

One non-spanking behavioral modification I am particularly proud of involved my youngest (who on occasion mentions this event and the impact it had on him and involves him being a picky eater.) Both my wife and I worked full time and she would make outstanding meals and at supper time, our youngest began asking for something else

“Can I have a PB&J instead? I don’t like this, can I have something else? Can I make a pizza instead?”

After explaining to him that his mother worked hard and then came home and made us a good meal should be appreciated, he was still not grasping the level of disrespect and appreciation he should have had so one Saturday, we told him he could cook supper for the whole family (I think he was perhaps 10 years old) He got to pick the menu and prepare and serve the meal for us. He was tickled pink and felt very grown up and worked his tail off to please us. He set a great looking table, and called all to the dining room when he was ready to serve. He detailed the menu and then served.

My wife and I and oldest son (scripted in advance) surveyed the meal, wrinkled our noses, made faces, looked at one another and then with great displeasure asked him if there was something else we could have as we didn’t like what he made. The 3 of us agreed to order pizza. I got up and grabbed the phone and the menu for the local pizza place. We completely ignored him and acted like he wasn’t even in the room as we selected toppings for the pizza.

He was devastated, reduced to tears and ran to his bedroom. I followed him, sat on the side of the bed and explained what just took place. I detailed the amount of work and pride he put into serving us a fine meal and how he expected us to be pleased and grateful of his efforts. Then I related that to his mother. Then I reminded him of all the times he treated his mother exactly the way we just treated him and how his mother felt as sad as he did when he rejected her meals.

He got it. He never rejected another meal and began the process of trying new foods and the behavior modification was complete without a spanking. Schools don’t have time for that level of physiological modification and a spanking would not have delivered the exact message required to stop a repeat action. Teach by example with logic and reason.

That young fella is in the army now and most likely not rejecting his MRE's and is thankful for them.

 

We have a school for those kids here. It's a public school for kids that won't behave. Those kids get to look at a wall in their tiny little cubical for 8 hours. Most never want to go back.







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Well put...

 

It all starts at home. The parents.
Lets take a page out of The Andy Griffith Show. Arnold Winkler the spoiled kid who rode his bicycle all over the streets of Mayberry. Until Andy was going to lock up his dad everything was, "poor Arnold, a little high strung, but a good kid."
The parents. It all starts at home.
JUST MO.

 

I took a few swats from a gym teacher once. Stung like hell. lol I deserved it. My answer to the question would be no though.

 

Did you carry them with your skittles in a satchel?

Pay Phone Banks must have been popular back then as well.

 

No, we weren't gangbangers.

 

well put and no it should not be a teachers job to punished a kid with use of force. 99% of teachers would love to teach in their class rooms without having to deal with kids who cannot behave.

I can tell folks now that how others kids behave in school can have negative or postive result on your kid. My daughter now goes to an all girls catholic school and it is night and day difference from where she went. The difference is the kids sitting next to her, who is also a straight A student, instead of the kids who farts all day.

 

I could not have said it better myself ...