Is Corporal Punishment For Misbehaving Appropriate in School?

LOL Do you think it was just one? Why would they bring the other classes out to witness it? It was the whole school system, including high school. It was the "mindset", just like yours, that grownups hitting children was acceptable. Here is a personal story: I was in the third grade and was sitting at my desk. I had a shirt pin (new shirt) and was scratching my name into my wooden ruler. My teacher claimed I was scratching my desk. I told her to look and see if there were scratches. She said she didn't need to and then took the pin and led me to the front of the class and proceeded to scratch my the top of my hand with the pin, multiple times. I was crying and said I would tell my mother. She said go ahead. Well, I did. My mother's response? "You probably deserved it". That was it.

The mindset that it is OK to beat children, abuse them, hurt them. It is a lot less nowadays but, every now and then, someone seems to want to resurrect it.

Sorry, you can never convince me that it is OK to beat children. If anyone were to ever strike my daughter I would happily show them it is OK to beat the living **** out of adults that beat children .

 

No, if you are swatted (hit) on the arse once without malice it is not a beating.

 

Is pain the intention of this "swat"?

 

I am going to take the side of caution on this one. Parents who can't/won't control their children at home, won't/can't teach them respect for authority at home, and won't/can't communicate effectively with other adults are going to send children to school and expect someone else to do this for them? I am going to have to say no to this one... in most cases.

I would instead choose to remove continually disruptive students from school if they can't/won't behave and let the parents of the disruptive students deal with the cost of privately educating their children. That puts the pressure back on the parents to deal with their children and hits them where it gets their $$$$ attention.

The way it works (or not) right now is backward IMO. Parents take well behaved kids out of schools and put them in private schools where discipline is maintained. Reverse it and let the too lazy to discipline parents deal with the financial consequence and we probably would see teachers loving their jobs again.

Discipline does not necessarily equate to spanking at any level and when we resort to hitting... we have already in most instances failed.

 

Bruce, we'll just have to agree to disagree. One swat on the arse does not constitute beating to me and you would not be able to change my mind on that either. Seems like you lived in a town of sadistic adults. During the formative years, children have to have adult guidance and learn consequences. For some kids "Don't do that again, or else I'll have to tell you don't do that again" works, for others it doesn't.

 

I don't know Bruce, I've never swatted someone else. I do know that when I was on the receiving end, most of the time it did not hurt, but it sure was embarassing. I also don't know about other schools at the time, but ours had a one swat policy, meaning you couldn't be struck more than once per incident. It probably was no more than once per day, but I never tested that.

 

No, just a town of adults that thought is was OK to hurt children in the name of "discipline". When you have to hurt a child to teach them a "lesson" don't be surprised if they learn a different lesson than the one you intended.

 

Standing with your nose in the middle of a chalk circle on the blackboard can be embarrassing too but it doesn't teach children that violence is a good solution to a problem.

 

My mom smacking my hand hard enough to leave a welt taught me not to stick something into the electric socket.

If you want a good example of a beating, just watch what I do to Iowa Veteran in the Individual Challenge this fall!



There's a time and place for a swat or spanking. It's not at school. I'm with Vito on this one. School is not the problem.

 

In schools no. Spanking should be left to the parents and used sparingly but effectively.

A spanking is different from a beating...the trouble is it takes common sense to recognize this and many parents don't have that. Mine did, and looking back I appreciate their use of spanking when I deserved it....and I'm younger than most all of you, so it's not a good ole days argument.

 

exactly, its a learned behavior

 

Well you forgot to tell us how much better things were back then.

 

We had Motorola Razors in high school...can you imagine, a FREAKING FLIP PHONE?!?! How we survived pre iPhone days, one may never know.

 

What about shock collars, like they use to train dogs?

 

Dude, when I was in high school we had pagers.

Let me repeat that, pagers.

 

Now you are onto something.

 

We had 8 track tapes.

 

Those were a real thing? I thought that was just something parents made up to convince their kids they had it so much harder. Similar to "walking uphill both ways".

 

Walking? We didn't even have feet back in the old days.

 

I only read the first post so.....

Absolutely not. No one is allowed to make a decision to physically punish one of my children besides my wife and myself. Especially some over zealous arrogant school teacher. On the contrary, there are quite a few teachers out there that need to be corporeally punished for the way they act.