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Is Corporal Punishment For Misbehaving Appropriate in School?

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  1. Iowa Veteran

    Iowa Veteran Grizzled Veteran

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    To heck with what laws may say, what do you think? Is corporal punishment for children who misbehave in school appropriate? I say yes. I grew up with it and in the classrooms I was in, the teachers who had a heavy hand for students acting up had the least amount of BS going on during class. I also believe it helped a lot of kids to learn and comprehend Newton's Law of Motion (For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction). It also proves my theory that the best way for certain children to retain some information is through their gluteus maximus.
     
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    I only remember 3 kids getting spanked when we were in school. All 3 are in prison now. Some kids are just destined to be low life turds. I will say, however, the mere threat of getting spanked kept me inline.....for the most part. :D
     
  3. Vito

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    Everything was better in the old days...just ask old guys.

    The problem is in the homes, not the schools.
     
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    Interesting question. Growing up, the school I attended did not have corporal punishment. Though in our household the fear of Dad was worse than any punishment the school could've offered, even if the school did support it. The Jr Felons of America were fairly easy to identify and with a large school, they were easy to avoid.

    With my kids, they likewise attended schools w/o corporal punishment, and they too on occasion received additional punishment at home. Spanking when younger and more privilege denial as they got older. When younger some learned with a spanking.

    Though as they get older probably mid middle school, if they aren't on the right track they may need to 'climb fools hill' for themselves.

    I think there are too many parents also in denial that their precious Johnny and Betty-Sue could ever stray, the schools can't address the situation and the parents have abdicated raising their kids to the schools--this is a no win scenario!
     
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    Beating a child is the easiest answer to misbehavior but it is never the right answer.
     
  7. Iowa Veteran

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    There is a big difference between beating and a swat on the rear.
     
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    Explain it to me.
     
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    Growing up, if I misbehaved, I got it at school, and then when Dad got home he continued the lesson. Since teachers have children about half their waking hours every weekday throughout the school year, I believe that children/juveniles will learn there are consequences for their actions quicker if it is handled in a timely manner.

    There is a more detailed explanation of what I am saying at: www.ruraliowegian.wordpress.com
     
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    Ok Bruce, me getting caught at school flipping the bird to a teacher and getting swatted once on the arse by the principal got my attention and reminded me that there is a consequence for bad behavior.

    My father deciding the school didn't go far enough and hitting me numerous times across the arse with the buckle end of the belt was a little more along the lines of beating.

    There is a big difference between beating and corporal punishment.
     
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    I am 43 when I was growing up if you did something wrong your Dad smacked your A$$. If you did something wrong at school you would be punished and when your parents came to the school to talk about it you got your *** smacked again when you got home. They didnt go in there with the how dare you pick on my child attitude that a lot of people have now. If there was a fight in school the teachers would let the 2 get it out of there system until it got out of hand and then you would be punished. You knew what was right and wrong and you knew how much trouble you would get in and you would decide if it was going to be worth the *** whooping you would get to do it. Alot of it has to do with how kids are raised at home, but this I dont need to smack my kids if they are bad attitude is a big problem with how kids act these days. Did you ever hear about school shootings years ago...NO! There was a fear factor that kept you in line and you werent patted on the back for every little thing you did.
     
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    [TD]corporal punishment - punishment of a physical nature, such as caning, flogging, or beating



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    Oooh, now I see the difference.
     
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    "corporal punishment is a form of physical punishment that involves the deliberate infliction of pain as retribution for an offence, or for the purpose of disciplining or reforming a wrongdoer, or to deter attitudes or behaviour deemed unacceptable"

    Did you have to look long to find your definition? This is the one that was first when I googled it.
     
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    The schools I want used long wooden paddles. Some of the teachers had names for them.Some of the teachers drilled holes in them for less air resistance. I'll never forget the day they brought the kids out of class so we could watch a big male teacher beat second graders with one these paddles. I certainly learned a lesson that day.
     
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    Oh but those heavy handed time outs are so effective.
     
  17. Vito

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    Nope, I used the first definition I found. You used a wiki description.

    Even then, how is that not beating?
     
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    So you had a sadistic teacher at your school who evidently repeatedly hit numerous second graders multiple times. That one person made all physical punishment for unacceptable behavior bad? If the actions of one make the whole bad, then because of Michael Vick all dog owners are bad. Because of Jim Jones and David Koresch all preachers are crazy. Due to the Beltway Sniper, no one in Virginia and Maryland should own a gun.
     
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    Read the previous posts to understand the difference Matt.
     
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    So its not a beating if you are only hit once? I just want to make sure I follow what you're saying.

    I still don't understand how physical punishment in schools is going to solve anything. Its the discipline at home thats lacking. The only thing I see this leading to is more teachers getting shot.
     

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