I do not understand what you are getting at. You agree with what I said, but your reply makes it look like your opinion differs. I was saying that we can get away with more during the rut and gun season, but the early and late seasons 'this isn't the case".
I say the BS meter pegged on this one. (For my areas in Louisiana) Our deer are more pressured and less of them than there were back then. No doubt in my mind. The land lease situation is the reason. More people hunting than there ever was in Louisiana because it has been so commercialized. (ie., the "In" thing to do if you belong to a club.) Years ago, you hardly ever saw a hunter anywhere during season. Now Mom, Dad, Grandma, Grandpa, and all the kids are hunting. I don't call it a "bad" thing. Just a reality.
I really don't know. If they were wearing plaid pants and jacket and had decent backcover, I would say pretty good.
It is probably overrated but I love my open patterns (Predator). If nothing else, it boosts my confidence. That should be worth the extra price, right?
It would be pretty easy to find out what your state's deer population was 25yrs ago v. today. Ours has exploded by 450% in that timeframe. Unless you've experienced blue tongue or another similarly destructive phenomenon in your state, I don't see how your whitetail population could decrease. Anyone got a study they could cite where this has occurred (outside those parameters)?
How easy was it to kill a great buck "back then", Josh? Easier than today? Harder? Having that many deer/sq. mi. is NOT a blessing (as you well know).
Lol!! I completely misunderstood your post. For some reason I took your post as camo didn't matter much In the late and early seasons. Sorry for the mix up.
A little bit yes. But I will say that I had some cow elk partially fooled this year with the ASAT pattern. I could move slowly, stalking them. They knew something was up but couldn't pin point me at 40 yards. I would move closer and they would slowly move away. For those of you who know elk, you know that this is impressive. From what I know about how animals see, the popular camo's (mossy oak and similar patterns) just look like a big blob. Which is fine as long as you don't move, especially if the big blob looks just like the stuff around you. But based on my experiences this year I think the more open broken patterns, such as ASAT and Predator, may actually work a little while moving. Slowly moving.
I will say this ... opener of Shotgun I had to wear my blaze orange jacket ... I had 3 deer never see me ... I had 10 or so deer never see me, of course they were running, I dropped that big doe and the rest ran over to where I was ... never saw me ... and they were LOOKING after that blast .... when I was at the big do, standing in the open, another doe came in ... saw me...head bobbed 4 or 5 times, and continued walking towards me until she winded me .... so my answer ... not so much
It is if you don't want to catch the hiv. I've heard things about girls from Illinois. Except Christine and Lady Forge, of course.
To those who say it doesnt matter.... I challenge all of you guys to not wear any camo next season and test your theroy out... Check back and let us know how it worked out, for the good or bad.
I think camo is far more important when on the ground than when in a tree. Greg/Mo, you're right, the open patterns, Predator, ASAT, even Realtree and MO are getting with the program, are better than most others. But I still don't think camo is as important when you're 20ft up a tree. Can't hurt, but shouldn't be a priority. Now, on the flip side, if you're 20ft up a tree with no cover and you're hunting deer that are still chitting razor blades nervous from gun season, not much can help you there.
I'd love to take this challenge. My issue is, I've got too much tied up in camo as my warmest garments. I'm not gonna spend $500 - just to prove a point. One thing you need to remember is.......plaid wool is the ORIGINAL open pattern camouflage. I'd trade most all my camo (with a few exceptions) for some good quality wool plaid. And, I can probably count on one hand the number of deer I've killed that saw me, first.