Is A.D.D. with kids a real thing, or do they just need more whoopins?

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And too often what kids are eating that isn't sugar is full of carbs that turn into sugar.

 

My oldest son was making bad grades in school. No matter what we did, his grades stayed in the D to F range. He has been punished just about anyway you could imagine but always turned in incomplete work. Last summer we took him to the doc. He was diagnosed with ADD and was prescribed meds. This was his first school year on them and he was .1 away from straight As. Before this happened to our family I thought it was bull, now I believe it is real.
We have 3 other kids not on meds. The ones in school make straight As too without any issues focusing. My oldest just couldn't focus without meds.

 

That and the lack of good nutrition. Kids are all jacked up on soda junk food all the time because its quick and easy busy parents.

 

The drug companies don't create cures or medicine. They create life long clients and dependants!!! That's my take on it. I do believe there are those serious and extreme cases but those are way far and few between. There is a seriously wrong direction when our doctors are so quick to diagnose misbehavior as an illness and pumping them full of drugs. Scary actually!!

 

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! I raised a son that was ADHD/ODD (oppositional defiance disorder)
My ex-wife and I tried every solution possible. The only thing that ever had any positive effect was Ritalin (only thing available 30 years ago). All the time out, grounding, punishment and dancing at the end of a razor strop never helped. My boy fought this his whole life. He finally started self medicating later on when it became too much for him to handle and he did try. He died at age 30 of a heroin overdose. If you think this is a parenting problem you are WRONG! This not only affects the people around the child but the child knows there is something wrong with him or her also causing depression.
Now I will say that there are MANY misdiagnosed cases and its easier to lump an undisciplined child into the ADD/ADHD category.


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Union or not no teachers should have to deal with wild kids.

I am sure yours rock

 

That may be true, but boys are full of energy for the most part. Without the extra sugar pumped into them. Many of our schools need to quit trying to make them conform to an unatural state. They need time to be kids and get rid of that stored up energy. I'm refering to schools that have done away with recess and such.


I believe PE should be mandatory for every student and maybe even morning calisthenics.


I've already stated my nephew's case. My son could have easily been put on meds. My son's baseball coach would tell all the kids not to swim before games except for my son. Told him to swim and work some of his energy off.:D At one point when he was little he was playing baseball, taking tkd and tumbling all at the same time(not literally, just during the same week and sometimes more than one on the same night). We did all we could to keep him engaged in something. Luckily our school system still believes in giving kids time to be kids.

When he tested for his bb, when we left he changed clothes on the way and ran onto the field to play a game.

I even got a call from the principle once about my son getting in trouble for being too out of control. He told me this energy was what would make him successful one day.

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Oh, he is 14 now and has settled down quite a bit.

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It's very real, but it's very abused as well (by both lazy parents and lazy prescribers).

A lot of kids greatly benefit from the medication.

It should also be noted that ADHD and ADD are two separate things often confused as one.

 

That is the same thing that happened to my son. People can blame it on parenting, diet, and whatever but until you have spent some sleepless nights worrying about your son and what the problem could be after you have disciplined him for the upteenth time and then spent some more sleepless nights because of the guilt from punishing him for things that he had no control over you have no idea what your talking about.
A few years ago I had the same attitude as a lot of the guys posting on here. Yes, there are some cases that are just a lack of discipline, but, I can guarentee you that was not the case at my house.

 

And remarkably type 2 diabetes and obesity are also charting on a similar course. Likely additional ties to the amount of processed foods also consumed, preservatives, etc.

Imho, add/adhd is real, but over diagnosed because of many of the reasons already listed. Though i believe there are other food triggers too (not always, some).We noticed my younger brother and even some of my own kids when they were younger would act up and not focus after comsuming foods with certain colorings (mainly red) added.

 

I've always wondered how many kids end up worse off because they were misdiagnosed, when they truly didn't need the meds. We don't worry about that though, just medicate the kids and get them to calm down. There's no doubt there are cases where kids really have a disorder and really need help, but I'm sticking to my 5-10% of the kids that are diagnosed. There's certainly something causing children/people to be less mentally stable these days. Whether that is environmental factors, diet, parenting, medication, I don't know.

 

I believe this. Red Koolaid is the worst. My wife and I both noticed this.

 

My son used to go ballistic after red kool aid.

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I "suffered" with ADD for a long time. I am not kidding. Things that were easy for many people I had a hard time dealing with...lines in the store, the teacher getting to the meat of the lesson before I couldn't take it anymore, studying more than 45 minutes straight.....man it was bad. Some kids need the medication although I survived without it. The best medication I ever discovered for ADD was coffee. Not lying.

 

I don't know if I have it or something else but reading for me sucks. I can literally read 2 pages or more of a book and then all of a sudden realize I have no clue what I just read. My mind would be off doing something else.



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I think it is mostly in kids that want/need more attention from adults and acting out is the only way they could initially get it, so they continue. It has become worse since social workers started speaking to schools and telling students that they could have their parents arrested if the parents spanked them. The parenting guidelines doled out by the government anymore is from a bunch of people with very impressive degrees, but no children. BTW, when my daughter came home and told me that they told her she could have me arrested if I ever spanked her, my reply was "You better have another family lined up to raise you then because the adults in this house make the rules, not the kids." Never heard another word on the subject.

 

My son had the same problem. He was 25 or 26 before he could read a book and enjoy it. For him it was just he was involved in so many things that he never gave his full attention to any one item. Now, he reads and enjoys it all the time.

 

We've significantly reduced the sugar products we have around the house and have seen a positive reslonse in our kids behavior and in our dental bills!