I jsut stumbled upon this. The X-Force is something that I may be looking at in the future. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6LzlgNfHtQ
The x-force is definitely a fast bow. I take it that jell target was balistic jell. It'd be interesting to see other bows compete in that. But they should at least show each bow on a scale prior to shooting it.
Yeah....I watched the video. The PSE X-Force is a screamer of a bow, that is for certain. In all honesty though, I wish these people would compare apples to apples and heavily note what they are doing. The X-Force vs. the Drenalin isn't really a well-drawn out comparative test. A bow with an IBO of 350 fps vs. an IBO of 320 fps. The KE on the X-Force at IBO specs is 95.23 ft/lb. The Drenalin, at IBO specs, 79.6 ft/lbs. Both well beyond what we need to kill a deer, but shooting these two particular bows through ballistic gel doesn't prove to me much. I could say a bunch more about what people could speculate on, regarding this video, but I'll spare you. I won't discredit the test, because I wasn't present. I just wish they would have compared bows on equal playing fields. As for you checkin' out the X-Force, I would say do it. If your curiosity is peaked, go shoot it. That is the only TRUE way you are going to find a bow you like. I know you are in the market for a bow and the best advice anyone could give you at this point is try as many as you possibly can. From there, you decide what you like. Any of the 2008-2009 bows will kill deer. It is a matter of what each bow gives in value to you. Always remember too, after you buy a bow, what value will be given back to you as far as service from each shop you visit.
Any bow period, "Can" kill a deer. Its just a matter of how humanely one can achieve this. As far as the IBO specs. I never really paid attention to them. They are shooting those funny arrows. I'm not one for them. I know my KE is a bit off from what they have gotten with the arrows, and specs they are using. Hell, I'm shooting a 29" 2314 aluminum arrow, with a 125gr. broadhead. I would say that may be putting off a bit more KE than their IBO setup. Unless I am mistaken on how this all works.
I am 100% in agreement. I know you are looking at a new bow. The only reason I said don't put much "value" into the ballistics gel is simply because the ballistics gel can't tell you how a bow feels upon the draw, at anchor, or during the shot. That is what REALLY makes a bow suitable for you! And the last line about service matters a great deal. I speak from experience. Hence, the reason why I work on my own bows now. Not because I wanted to avoid a proshop or be independent, the proshop I bought from isn't what I think one should picture as a credible shop, who speaks the truth and deals with each individual's needs. Now don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed learning how to work on my bows and learned a great deal from this forum among others, but I am still early in my learning and I would value a shop that could help me work on my bow and I know they are speaking from years of truth and experience.
Yeah, My family, Literally, all of them, go to the same local Twin Cities shop. They have gone to this place forever, and have done all of their dealings with them. It is a family owned shop, and they are not afraid to tell you what they think of any specific bow. If they think that a certain bow, no matter of the cost, is better for you than one that costs more, they will tell you that.
Well, KE takes into consideration two things, the speed of the object in motion and how much mass the object possesses. There is a law of diminishing return in there for either variable as well. As in, if nothing else changes besides the speed and or mass of the object, at some point you give up KE for increasing speed or mass too much. Basically, for archery you need two variables. The speed at which your arrow is traveling, noted by FPS. And the mass or grains of your arrow. Since I don't know your setup completely, as far as speeds are concerned anyways, I can't comment on your setup compared to KE listings for those two bows at IBO specs. IBO specs are a 70 lb bow, a drawlength of 30", with a 350 grain arrow (arrow is basically 5 grains/lb of draw weight: 5 * 70 = 350).
That's good, I'm glad you have a shop you trust and value. That is a KEY component when buying a bow, especially if you haven't been shopping for bows in recent years. I know many guys who shoot the new bows without intending to buy them, just to test drive them. For them, they know what to expect out and how to compare one bow to the next. I know when I shot the new Hoyt Alphamax this year for the first time, my 2006 Hoyt Trykon felt surpassed in about every category when shot next to the Alphamax. :D Such is buying a new bow. Does that mean the Trykon won't work? Nope, not at all. In fact it better work in about a week as I go on a hog hunt. But does that make me enjoy how far bows have come in just a few short years? Yes.
