Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by BJE80, Feb 27, 2013.
Intresting....is this an avg. of HPSM at any given time trough out the sesone or is it a (HPSM) yearly avg.?
Resone I ask is, the public I hunt is 28 square miles, it has 12.5 gun HPSM during a two day quota hunt. From Sept. through Jan. (bow hunters) it has around 35.7 HPSM.....When you add it all togather it has 48.2 HPSM, on a yearly avg. But, at any given time it would only avg. 9 to12 HPSM.
If I had to hunt where the HPSM was more than 10 I would go screaming mad. I can not even imagine.
Its not that bad where I hunt fletch 80% never get more than a 1/4 mile of the road....and of the 20% that do go deep, only 1%, (maybe less) hunt the right spots.
One thing about Wisconsin is our number is so high due to our strong gun deer season. On opening day of gun season 11% (650,000 hunters in 5,726,398 total people) of all people in the state are in the woods on the same day. That % is including every man women and child.
If you consider just bow hunting it is much less.
this is very deceiving. I live in maryland, and I can almost guarantee that the hunter density is near some of the highest rates in the entire country in most areas, specifically where I live on the Eastern Shore. There are so many small tracts of privately owned land and large tracts that are leased by large hunting clubs. In my own estimates, I would guess there could easily be upwards of 40 or even 50 HPSM.
Yes, I would say if we add deer density and available habitat/wooded acers....it would put a whole new spin on the equation also.
WOW, I suddenly feel even more lucky about the places / areas I have to hunt.
I am suprised Illinois is not higher.
You'd get a better idea if they had a similar chart showing percentage of land that's public.
This is kinda like that deer chip map. Without more info the data is worthless to me. How were these numbers complied? Is it purely hunting licenses sold? Is it tags sold? Where and how did they collect the data? I seriously doubt that these numbers can be accurate for every square mile.
I don't think anything can be accurate for every square mile, but it is interesting. I would assume they get the density by taking the amount of hunters per hunting zone. Then taking the size of the hunting zone, divided by the amount of hunters in that zone. I think this was meant to show that if hunters were spread evenly throughout the state, there would be this many per square mile. I don't think it was meant to show you exactly how many hunters are hunting at a specific time right next to you.
Most of them are in Wisconsin during gun season.
This is because most of Illinois is farmland. Kinda hard to hang a treestand on a cornstalk after it's cut. Some areas are heavy, but other areas have no one at all.
If I remember correctly only about 1% of Illinois huntable public land. Much of the state is flat ag land so that takes out a bunch more... so you really have a bunch of hunters crammed on relatively small parcels. Especially in the north and central part of the state.
This is what land looks like around where I live. It's a good place to be a bean or corn plant, not so good for deer or turkeys or much else. Which is why I drive 60 miles, one way, to deer hunt on public land.
A map like this thy has the whole state shaded is probably done by number of registered hunters in that state divided by square miles in the state.
Given what I know about my area, it way more than than thy map is saying.
that's what I'm guessing, which means that map is seriously flawed.
This kinda what I was getting at John....If state "A" and state "B" are close to the the same size, and state "A" has 40% available habitat with 20 HPSM....and state "B" has 20% available habitat with 10 HPSM...they would receive equal amounts of pressure as a whole.
The hunting in IL is bad. Do yourselves a favor and find a better place with more deer. IL deer are really small and skinny, too. I don't know why people want to hunt here. IL deer don't grow over 4 point racks either. Nothing to see here. Move along now
NY has 13-16 hunters per square mile? Not the part of NY I hunt. Here it is closer to 13-16 hunters per acre!
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