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Insert Glue??

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Sticknstringarchery, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. Sticknstringarchery

    Sticknstringarchery Grizzled Veteran

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    What glue do you guys use? My shop uses this epoxy type stuff. My arrows have been done for almost 2 months now and I had an insert pull out yesterday. The glue was still wet!! Maybe tacky and sticky is a better description. Anyone else had this issue??
     
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    Clean the inside of the shaft with acetone and glue with standard superglue. Providing the manufacturer did their part (maintining strict quality control standards) you will not lose an insert.

    What arrows are you using?
     
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    After using acetone,clean out with water,especially when using superglue. Acetone leaves a residue.

    I don't reccommend superglue at all. It will break down over time and become brittle. I use a low temp hotmelt whenever possible.Easton makes the best.

    If hotmelt isn't an option,then use a slow drying epoxy. I prefer the 24 hour but not really necessary,just don't like the 5 minute stuff.

    But always clean with water to remove residue.


    Also spin the insert when installing and do not lay the shaft down while drying.This ensures a complete and solid bond while not allowing it to ball up on one side.

    Sticks,I would guess your shop either did not mix the epoxy properly OR there was acetone in the shaft when he installed the insert.


    Knock on wood,I have not had an insert pull out in years.
     
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    I've used superglue gel for years and have had great results.
     
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    InnerX CBS Weekend Warrior

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    Bohnings Quantum XT is my favorite all around glue. I have yet to have a single problem with it since I started suing it a few years back. But like others have said, Arrow prep is just as if not more important than the glue itself.
     
  6. Sticknstringarchery

    Sticknstringarchery Grizzled Veteran

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    They are Easton Flatlines. I watched him do it and he did not clean them other than acetone. I never thought about the residue.
     
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    Most don't and don't even know it can be a problem.

    I have a friend that builds and tunes arrows on the world competition level. Some of the arrows he has tuned have set world records. (Of course, not without an excellent archer behind them.:D) When he talks, I listen;)

    I have learned a ton from him

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    wags1 Weekend Warrior

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    like tfox, i prefer hotmelt. this also allows me to heat the broadhead and rotate so that the blades are in the position i prefer.
     
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    headstrong Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I cut my own arrows and friends, I use gorilla glue and never hand an insert come out yet. The thing with epoxy is if you dont mix it right it wont cure properly.
     
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    Gorilla glue expands. There is probably a huge glob inside the shaft and I doubt it is consistent.
     
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    Rabbit 57 Weekend Warrior

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    Easton epoxy packets for HIT inserts work on anything. But, after the application, you can't touch them for 24 hours. Lay them flat.
     
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    I think the 2-parts where not mixed in equal amounts. Too much resin and not enough hardener will do that.
     
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    Having a similiar issue with my flatlines.
    I've had a handful of inserts pull out. It's downright irritating after the time I took to prep/clean them and install the inserts.
    I guess hotmelt is my next try.
    Anyone have ideas on how to remove the inserts or clean the inside once you've already 'glued' an insert into the arrow?
     
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    I had built 18 Easton Flatline Surgical's using Easton HIT Epoxy with none pulling out. Have you tried this epoxy?
     

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