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Insanity CPXL vs Element RKT.

Discussion in 'Equipment Reviews' started by Sticknstringarchery, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. Sticknstringarchery

    Sticknstringarchery Grizzled Veteran

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    I am going to try this again on my lap top. I had it all typed up on my Iphone and something happened at the end of typing it. Not happy about that but, her you guys go.

    Lets start with a comparison of the set ups. My bow: 2012 Carbon Element RKT, 29" draw, 65lb, 306fps at the time of the test. I had to de-tune it today to meet my Sundays shoot regulations. NAP Apache CARBON drop away, NAP Apache 8" stab, Apex Gear Nitrus 6 pin sight set at 20, 30, 40, 50, 65 and 75yd. I have a little over 1,000 shots through this bow now and two tournaments. So needless to say I know the bow well by now.

    The Insanity: My pro shop owner Robert Brookman's bow. Set up for him, not me. I had 7 shots through it before hitting the course. 3 of which were in the back of the shop and 2 at 20yd before I headed out to the course. 29", 56lb, 283fps. CBE single pin dial adjust sight which until the 4 shots at 20yd I had never used before. I actually had to have Robert tell me how to adjust it for yardages before I hit the course. Rest is a Bodoodle rest which again, never shot one of these rest before, 20" Stokerized stab with 12" Stokerized sidebar. Once again, I have never in my life held a bow that had a stab longer than 8" much less one with a side bar. Yes to many shooters this bow has the advantage but, to me it didn't considering I had very little use with it and it wasn't set up for me. As a matter of fact I was really stressed about shooting this bow not knowing how I would do with it.

    I shot mine first on the course and didn't do near as well as I expected. This guy can really set up a course. To say a beginner could go out and do extremely well would be a down right lie. Target one and two I did great on. Number 3 yeah, I was lucky I hit it. I misjudged it by a good 7yd. It was a doe up a hill that had two visible shelves and was a good 8 foot elevation change from the shooting steak. I judged around 33yd and turns out after I did the whole shoot with both bows, I put a range finder on it and it was 40.4yd. Luckily my 306fps shoots flat enough to make up for my misjudgment. I scored a 5 on it. I did OK and didn't miss any of the other targets on the course.

    After shooting the 4 shots at 20yd, getting a quick how to adjust the CBE, and a "Your only taking one arrow out?? man you are confident" from Robert, I headed to the course. I wasn't confident at all. Just didn't want to lose his arrows. I figured if I lost one, I was out $20.00 max if I lost more well, you get the drift. I would have stopped at 2. lol First two targets surprised me. I nailed dead center of the middle 12 which is dead center of the 10 ring. Unfortunately we shoot low 12 here. Now on to that number 3 that threw me with mine. Maybe I could judge it better this time. NOPE!!! clean miss. I think I judged it at 35yd but, not sure. That's the only target I remember the yardage on. I never found that $20. I headed back to the shop to fetch another arrow and went on to shoot a 12 on the next two targets. I didn't hit anything less than an 8 and hit only one of those, 2 more 12's and the rest 10's.

    Final scores are Element 71, Insanity 94 with one that was a zero.

    Both bows are amazing pieces of equipment and more than capable of doing what they are designed for. The Element being in my opinion is the best hunting bow a person could ask for. Light weight, super fast and deadly quiet. Short ATA is great for spot and stalks and everything. But, in the 3D world the saying "Weight don't move" couldn't be more true. That's where the Element's lack of weight hurts it. Shooting 20yd I could probably hold my own with anyone out there and maybe even most 30yd shooters no matter what their set up for that matter. It's speed capabilities would more than make up for misjudging a few yards as the results showed on target number 3. With my set up now, it would be able to sling a 450gr arrow just above 280fps. Now that's moving and impressive. If a hardcore get down and dirty deep woods hunting rig is what you are looking for, in my opinion it will do more than the most hardcore hunters out there will ever need and worth every cent of the $1300.00 price tag.

    The Insanity does what it was designed to do and let me say does it better than most would expect out of a bow that is technically not a target bow. 3D shooters that are also hunters have a perfect tool available to them now. This bow is capable of super fast speeds that would match if not surpass the Element at the same time stable and weighs enough to hold extremely steady. Now hunting in the deep woods it may feel like you are toting around a boat anchor after a while. It would take some getting use to. Target shooting is a great experience with this bow. It settles so well and fat that it could cause some and did cause me on the first couple shots to punch the trigger. That being said, when one does this, the mark is usually hit. Its like shooting darts out of this thing. If it is an all round bow that will get the job done no matter what you need it to do is what you are looking for, the Insanity CPXL is the bow to get. You can shoot 3D from February to August and then go harvest deer or any other game animal with it in the fall. This bow will do it all!!! So I am selling mine or trading whichever comes first and buying an Insanity CPXL. Why? Because it will do EVERY THING I want a bow to do.

    In my conclusion, both bows will fit the bill they were designed to fit. For me, I bought the right bow for me at the time. Had I been into 3D when I bought it, I would have no doubts I would have chosen the Insanity CPXL. In reality, I guess I should have waited to buy a new bow but, then again, I had no intentions to get into 3D like I have. Buy the bow that fits what you like to do is the lesson learned here and if it doesn't, sale the one you bought and buy the one you need. Based on this shoot, using the Insanity I should be consistently in the 190-200 range every shoot. That's a projected 20-30 points higher than I average now per shoot.

    I would like to thank Robert and Pam Brookman owners of Droptine archery located at 100 Webb Way, Adnvance, NC 27006 web site www.droptinearchery.com for allowing me to do this comparison shoot.

    And one more thing, if you want a really great deal on a used 2012 Hoyt Carbon Element RKT, PM me.

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    Scores It's not an official score card but, this is my list of scores:

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    I didn't mention that I stayed in the 40yd range while shooting these two bows on this course. I know they were two different types of set ups but, one I am extremely familiar with and the other isn't even set up for me. The peep was high so my anchors were different and I had only had 7 shots to get use to it. We didn't have another CPXL to use and considering Robert will be shooting a tournament Sunday, not a good idea for me to be taking stuff off and putting back on. I guess the real comparison here was the way the bows felt to me. Personally the Insanity was a better fit as far as the feel of the bow.
     

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