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I'm too ethical

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Vendetta, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Vendetta

    Vendetta Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Is it wrong to accept a contract with the fringe benefits of hunting property? I say yes, and damnit that sucks..
     
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    What does that have to do with ethics? Fringe benefits are never really fringe benefits, IMO, they are just another part of the "deal" that was negotiated and someone through them in to sweeten the pot and help close the deal.
     
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    Vendetta Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Because the "deal" is for a group of people that I happen to be the president of. Making a deal that benefits me more than the other members is the part I can't get around, especially if the price of this particular service is more than others that bid. I wasn't very... informative.. initially.
     
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    Ask if you can invite the rest of your team as guests and take the deal with a clear conscience
     
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    There you go.
     
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    You done good! Ask for a quote without the fringe benefits. If that time is already past, I'd say you are right in passing on that deal.
     
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    We have too little information to make a valid assessment of the situation.
     
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    This was my thought as well.
     
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    I run a.. lets call it.. an organization.... and we bid out our contracts for services. Contract for a year is about $25,000, give or take $5000-$10000 depending on the company. One of the vendors bidding mentioned hunting rights as we were discussing the work to be bid. Haven't gotten his bid yet, he could be cheap or expensive. Being that only a small fraction of the money is mine, and it belongs to a collective, I could easily take a slightly more expensive contract and justify it based on... performance... in order to gain hunting priveledges, but my good conscience will not allow me to do it... Good morals make for less hunting ground.. grr. That said, if he's one of the cheaper bids, no harm no foul!
     
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    Dude are you a hitman ?? :)
     
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    You can never be too ethical. If you don't feel comfortable with the deal then you are doing the right thing by turning it down. On the other hand if you are working on the deal more than the others involved and feel that you deserve additional compensation then so be it. If that is not the case and you feel that you would only be accepting the deal due to the additional benefits offered to you then by all means pass on it.... Go with your gut.
     
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    Vendetta Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Lets just say, a few months out of a year I "take care" of things in the woods.
     
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    selfbros Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Well I was a Construction manager at my last job for a major Telecomunications company and I can tell you first hand that cheaper bids usually were assoisiated with poor services. thus, we normally picked some of the more expensive bids to avoid risk. However, after a few years in the bussiness you tend to learn who you can trust and who you can't, thus leading me to a question for you. Is there anyway that this bidder could come forward that you particupated in a bribe or personal exchange in lue of said work? if you go through it this time who's to say that this person wont expect the same service moving forward. and if so what if his services are regected by another member and the topic is brought up that gave them work based on hunting rights? You can't trust most people expecially if they are is sales. No offence to those in sales. it not personal, I'm just pointing out that sales people are after one thing and that's sales. am I right????

    but then again, If what you've done is stupid but it works, then it really isn't that stupid at all.
     
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    Vendetta Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Yeah, I'm only having BBB A+ companies bid the work, I doubt any of them will be "cheap", but we will most likely use the most affordable one. I wasn't really torn about the decision, I wouldn't accept rights to forego service. I was basically saying I wish I could be more like a politician and get my back scratched... lol
     
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    Fair enough, i'll ask no more.
     

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