The thing that I dislike about these such rules is that even though is it illegal you can still go to any archery store it major outdoor retail chain like cabelas or ****s or gander and found attractant. I go in all te time and see acorn rage and the likes. Also where I am. Mechanical broadheads that do not retract are also illegal. They are called "spiked broadheads" but I see them all over in every store. It's ridiculous. I been lucky enough that deer love walking through my property so I don't need much lol.
what about the fact of just minerals like a trophy rock during the growing season and after late season when the deer need the nutrition the most? all we are doing is improving deer heard
That's a load, the deer would be just fine without your trophy rock. You keep trying to justify breaking the law, but the laws are there for a reason. I love the fact that baiting/feeding is illegal here! Illinois is messed up in alot of ways, but the game laws are pretty damn good if you ask me.
im not saying break the law. we are having a friendly debate and my argument was that it cant hurt a thing to give deer a little extra nutriton when they need it. it will just binifit the deer heard so we have healthy does and fawns and bigger bucks. im not saying lets put a mineral sight under your stand and refesh it days before you hunt it. i really do have heard health in mind
ok lets try somthing else here... say its not illegal and we are trying to decide wether it should be or not? what is your defence to make it illegal? cause i can think of a few but i thing the benifits of heard health out whiegh the bad.
Unless they re wrote the laws again any planted crop can be left UN cut. You can also plant plots that are not meant to be harvested. You can not use any SALT based sprays or minerals. You just have to read the book and its addendums. Come on guys we live in one of the biggest farming states why even try to manipulate the laws to hoe to get a shot at more deer. Just hunt smarter Sent from my SGH-T999L using Tapatalk 2
If disease is present, you can spread it faster when you're feeding them. That's why it's not allowed. We have some of the best deer hunting in the country, and you would want to suddenly allow feeding/baiting? You would want every property to have piles of food and mineral sites everywhere? If that happened, I can almost guarantee you would hate it. Again, the deer are doing just fine without it.
Not sure where you're going here Mike, but why is SALT emphasized? It has nothing to do with salt, you cannot feed them anything.
I'm not going crazy. Ask any CPO the ingredient they look for us salt it sugar. Last year I had a meeting with the DNR And talked to them about using sprays as a scent lure like a mock scrape our site urine. They said as long as they are not salt our sugar based or ment for ingestion they are fine. You are aloud to plant plots or even sustainable crops that are left for deer and u keep reading that you can't do that Sent from my SGH-T999L using Tapatalk 2
page 15 of the 2013/14 digest Hunting Deer Over Salt, Mineral or Bait It is illegal to take deer by the use or aid of bait or baiting of any kind. For the purposes of this Section, "bait" means any material, whether liquid or solid, including food, salt, minerals and other products that can be ingested, placed or scattered in such a manner as to attract or lure white-tailed deer. "Baiting" means the placement or scattering of bait to attract deer. An area is considered as baited during the presence of and for 10 consecutive days following the removal of bait. For the purposes of taking white-tailed deer, nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the manipulation, including mowing or cutting, of standing crops as a normal agricultural or soil stabilization practice, food plots or normal agricultural practices, including planting, harvesting and maintenance, such as cultivating, or the use of products designed for scent only and not capable of ingestion, solid or liquid, placed or scattered, in such a manner as to attract or lure deer.
Mike, EXCUSE ME???? Dude, it was YOU telling everyone that plots are not legal. I also know what is considered feeding, the key words " meant for ingestion", it has nothing to do with salt, sugar or anything else. If deer are going to eat it, it's not allowed. Good grief
I think you have me confused with someone else FEB I never said plots were against the law. and it does state SALT in the digest. Sorry but you cant pull me into this little argument you guys are trying to have. What I posted form page 15 was copied and pasted.
Yes, salt is on the list among other things. It also states "OTHER PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE INGESTED", it's not that complicated. We've had this discussion about attractants and plots, and here's what you said about food plots: "Also technically food plus that are not harvested are against the law" "the law states any foods placed or planted with the intension of feeding the deer i.e. food plots is against the law." "please show me the paragraph in the regs that state "food plots" are leagal" Here's the thread, you may want to read it again, it's a good read! http://forums.bowhunting.com/bowhunting-talk/33812-who-uses-corn-7.html
That was in the old digest Feb we are talking about the new one. Before the addendum was added to clarify the food plots. Again this is beating a dead and rotting house to death. I'm not hear to argue or debate past statements. Sent from my SGH-T999L using Tapatalk 2
you bring up 2 very good points... blue tounge and i belive iys EHD have hit everyone hard not only in Illinois but have you ever wondered if we was able to give deer minerals and nutritional plelets and what not that maybe they could be healthy enough to fight the desieses? and i compleatly understand the point of everyone hunting a pile of corn and you are right there is really no way around that. if we just had hunters that would take a resonable limmit of mature does and bucks every year we would see better deer heards and more 4, and 5 year old bucks.
