Ok, I am really wanting to possibly go heavier on my arrow weight. At 60# and a 27" draw I shoot a 376 gr arrow. I would like to continue to shoot just one pin to 20 yds. 20-24 yds is about all range I ever get in my woods. So speed is not much of the equation other than using one pin. So what grain arrow would you go with for best penetration and even quieter bow?
I had to lower my draw weight to around 65# and my total arrow weight is 470 grains. I shoot the Easton Full Metal Jacket 5mm. I shoot a Jenninngs ProGold, so its not the fastest bow estimated fps is around 200. So like you I got a heavier arrow to help with penetration. Shawn Jennings ProGold Easton FMJ 339 grains NAP Spitfire DoubleCross 100 grains 2017 Team 3 Shed Hunting 2017 Team 6 Turkey Hunting 2017 Team 5 Deer Hunting
Im thinking next year i will add the 75 grain brass inserts to my arrows also increasing the FOC. Shawn Jennings ProGold Easton FMJ 339 grains NAP Spitfire DoubleCross 100 grains 2017 Team 3 Shed Hunting 2017 Team 6 Turkey Hunting 2017 Team 5 Deer Hunting
Pick a number and an arrow and buy a 1/2 dozen and let them fly and see what happens. that is a big part of the fun IMO. Its only money.
I can't imagine a realistic setup where at anything over 55# draw you would need more than 1 pin out to 20. I tried out the NAP 180gr F.O.C a couple years ago, and even at 65# there wasn't any drop until after 25 yards. That was adding 80 grains to my already 475gr setup.
This right here where I would start. I don’t think you’d notice a difference in spine affecting accuracy especially at 20-25yrds. Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
Well I guess what would be the real benefit of going up 45 gr in weight? would have better penetration? quieter bow? both? or is 45 gr nt enough to make a difference?
from what I gather, 400-420 gr will help with both, penetration and noise...now I have only killed one deer with my current set up...a 12 yard shot broadside and it stopped on the opposite shoulder, deer ran 30 yards and died.. rage 2 blade head. I would like to see two holes if I can. my bow is quiet now, I mean the minimum is 300 gr for 60# and I am at 376. so I can assume that 45 grs would give me a bit more KE/MO and quiet the bow even more. Albeit, I would not gain a bunch KE/MO
You are thinking along the right track that momentum is more important than speed. A lot of your journey will be trial and error. My two cents is that for a normal mechanical head you need a minimum of 400 grains of arrow weight along with 60 pounds of draw and long draw length 29+. Maybe could get by with 28. If any of those three factors don't reach the minimum then one or more of the others need to increase accordingly to compensate. Other options include low ke mechanical heads and fixed blade heads. Most of all have fun and enjoy the process. Sent from my VS500 using Bowhunting.com Forums mobile app
the funny thing is, when I went fully traditional a few years back for a season, I was shooting 47 lbs at 27" (recurve) with a 470 gr arrow....never thought much about it. never killed a deer with it, but I accepted the fact it was slow and my range was 15 yds. I come back to the wheels and I am beating my head against the wall over arrow weight and trajectory...this Impulse 31 at 60# and 27" is far more "efficient" than my recurve in terms of speed, KE and MO .....and yet I am running all sorts of numbers! I guess just about any arrow weight above 350 gr is all I will ever need.... ahh...maybe I will pick up the ol stick and string and shoot that for a while, was much more fun than compound for sure!
I would consider first...bumping grain tip of broadhead AND adding weighted inserts. Bump up total weight 60-80grains and you've also increased your FOC. This wouldn't change the dynamic spine enough to be of notice I would guess and the heavier and higher FOC should allow quicker arrow stabilization in flight than what you have now...and save an arrow purchase.
