Hell, I don't want her for President.... I want to marry the gal. Of course, that might be considered a punishment for her. LOL Good for her.
Years ago i had a novelty t-shirt that read jeffery dahmer for president tax the rich eat the poor. It had a pic of him with a arm in his mouth. At the bottom it said."the real party cannabal" I use to collect t-shirts. Not sure what ever happen to it . Think mom threw it out..
I normally avoid the political and religious threads, but I just don't get this. It seems people forget who were the original inhabitants of this land, and how poorly they were treated. What is so wrong with ethnic studies? As much as some would like to have it, the USA will never be a country made of strictly American born caucasians. More ignorance leads to less tolerance. Should we pretend the Native Americans weren't slaughtered and treated like animals because it would cause resentment towards white people? Should we pretend slavery didn't exist? It seems most have forgot that Napoleon, a celebrated figure in history, murdered non christians. He was basically a 17th century version of Hitler. I wish every man had to walk in another's shoes before judging them. Most people that are out spoken about this subject have no idea what people of other races have to go through on a regular basis.
Yea thats what we need, She just lost Billions for her state in revenu, now put her in charge of the country. Hell even the RNC changed their plans and moved the convention to Florida. She has what we call in the political arena Squirrel Chit for Brains. Thats back woods politicken there folks!
I think the true debate here is the fact that there is a LEGAL process to become an immigrant citizen of the United States. A process that allows you to freely become a citizen and allows you all of the rights that go with the privilege. One of these rights is the right to earn an income and pay your fair share of taxes to help support this country. The problem with the ILLEGAL immigrants is not their skin color, it is the fact that they are large consumers of our economic resources but do nothing to help support the very systems that make them want to come here in the first place. Bottom line, we can not afford to continue to pay out of our pockets for all of the illegal immigrants. The sad fact is that our country is slowly going bankrupt from the economic strain. Our doors are open to all that want to abide by our rules. Arizona has simply been stretched to its limits financially by illegals and made a bold move to do something about it. If you are here legally, you have no worries. If not, you have broken our laws. I really can not blame Arizona for making a tough decision. California is basically bankrupt for the same reasons and may have to do the same.
"The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group." They can still teach history.. about slavery, indian wars, all that stuff. They just won't allow any pansy-ass 'let's-feel-like-victims-and-hate-another-group' curriculums anymore. Good. This is supposed to be a melting pot. (of legal immigrants) We're supposed to be getting over differences in race and ethnicity... yet all that these groups (and liberals) are doing is pointing out race and ethnicity at every turn. We're also supposed to be a nation of laws... yet heaven forbid we actually try to enforce some of our most basic ones. ...grrrrr....
That's not what I got out of it at all. My wife is an immigrant to this country, a legal immigrant. Because I'm against illegal immigrants, people want to paint me as a racist ... that's bull****. As long as the unbiased truth is taught in schools, I have no problem with it. It didn't seem like that was the case with the Arizona shcools.
You're right, that isn't fair. I didn't touch on illegal immigration at all though, or imply anyone was a racist. I agree, but who decided the class was a "pansy-ass 'let's-feel-like-victims-and-hate-another-group' curriculums"? White conservatives? The same people that they believe cause them to feel like victims? Just asking... I don't consider myself a conservative or a liberal. I am a person with opinions and beliefs that doesn't get pigeon-holed into being told what I should stand behind. I only mentioned conservatives because you felt it necessary to mention liberals. I have nothing against either one. I never said illegal immigration was fine. I just don't understand how studying another ethnicity, in a country full of different ethnicities, is wrong.
Matt, I'm driving right now and would really like to be at a place where I could coherently capture my thoughts in a bit more erudite fashion, but I'll answer as quickly as I can with perhaps a chance to follow up later... What Christine and Keith posted is very much along the lines of why I made the thread... No, there's nothing wrong with remembering a person's heritage and how it helps comprise who they are. The problem as I see it is that very often something of this very nature does indeed help permeate an "us against them" attitude. It's a "they did this to us"... theme or a ""they're still doing it to us" message. I'm all for being one being able to emigrate to this country -- legally. I understand all too well that I myself wouldn't be here if SOMEONE up the line didn't emigrate here up the food chain from me. Thank God they did, and thank God for the chance to grow and flourish in this amazing country we reside in. But that's just it... I'm loyal to THIS country. ITS residents... all the good, the bad, and the ugly that we have exhibited and continue to do so. I'm an AMERICAN, no matter my heritage. And I don't need people trying to jam it down my head that I'm "this-American" or a "that-American".. I'm an American, plain and simple. (Ok, now I've pulled into a parking lot... ) Case in point: Day before yesterday, I had my Dad in the car with my 6-year-old... Dad grew up in a different era, and I've worked hard on him to lose some of his bigotry, plain and simple. He started a story about something, and mentioned a "colored person." My 6-year-old quickly asked "What?" and I changed the story to navigate around what my father was referring to... You see... I don't want my son seeing ANYONE as anything but American. We don't describe people in our house as anything but "boy" or "girl" or but by their names... no matter who they are, where they live, or what color their skin is. Is he eventually going to be exposed to different mindsets? Of course... but WE'RE going to teach him to value every human the same. Once you start breaking out into different subsets -- it gets real easy to expose, exploit or identify an "us against them" mentality. A "we've had it so much harder than you" mentality and either an entitlement thought process or a revenge thought process. Is EVERYONE that way? Thankfully... no, of course not. But all too often, that's exactly what IS promoted in classes of that sort.
Greg, I see your point, and agree with you. Obviously, something has to be done about illegal immigration. It would also be great if people didn't see each other by race. Impossible, but it would be nice. For minorities, they view most history cirriculums taught in school as an ethnicity class for white people. I think its hard for most white americans to only see it from their perspective. Did other minorities decide to stop the class in the article? I would assume no. Michigan is considered pretty tolerable when it comes to race and ethnicities. I've lived near Detroit and spent plenty of time in greek town, which for those who aren't familiar, hosts many restaurants, businesses, and communities of many ethnicities. I spent many hours as a teenager in the city of Flint, which has a large population of hispanics, asians, and blacks. For that reason, I have always considered myself pretty tolerable of other races and thought I could understand the hardships they deal with. I had no idea. My wife is black, and until we begin to spend a lot of time together in college, I had no idea how much ignorance was still out there. I still don't pretend to know whats its like for a minority in this country. I think its impossible to know, or think to know, what another person has or is going through. Whether its race, class, life circumstances, etc. I just want people to try and imagine what life is like for someone else, before judging them.
This is what the law says: 15-111. Declaration of policy THE LEGISLATURE FINDS AND DECLARES THAT PUBLIC SCHOOL PUPILS SHOULD BE TAUGHT TO TREAT AND VALUE EACH OTHER AS INDIVIDUALS AND NOT BE TAUGHT TO RESENT OR HATE OTHER RACES OR CLASSES OF PEOPLE. 15-112. Prohibited courses and classes; enforcement A. A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR CHARTER SCHOOL IN THIS STATE SHALL NOT INCLUDE IN ITS PROGRAM OF INSTRUCTION ANY COURSES OR CLASSES THAT INCLUDE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: 1. PROMOTE THE OVERTHROW OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. 2. PROMOTE RESENTMENT TOWARD A RACE OR CLASS OF PEOPLE. 3. ARE DESIGNED PRIMARILY FOR PUPILS OF A PARTICULAR ETHNIC GROUP. 4. ADVOCATE ETHNIC SOLIDARITY INSTEAD OF THE TREATMENT OF PUPILS AS INDIVIDUALS. Does this look like you can't teach history? Social studies? Or is it just another oppression by the evil white conservative?
