Yeah I was talking natural with no supplements. My wife eats healthy which means I am eating healthy, we eat a lot of baked fish 2-3 times a week, no white bread, or processed foods. We probably eat venison for red meat more than beef. It is funny that once you kick off of the processed and fast foods and soda etc, how salty and horrible you feel after you eat it. That is about as far as I am willing to take it though I am not giving up meat and egg yolks.
Just keep asking the vegan where their protein is coming from when they bring up their food habits. You will drive them nuts.
Pretty how I strive to eat....extremely tough as my wife eats nothing but processed foods and crap....talk about a challenge.
Listen, I am not trying to start anything here. I was merely frustrated that this dude has the holier than thou attitude with his food choices and seems to always take a shot when he can. This morning he saw my drink that happened to be in a camo can and decided he would say something. A conversation about the topic is not going to happen. His way is the right way. Also, cat food is made from animal product. His choices (and anyone's for that matter) are fine. I just don't like when it can only go one way and real conversation can't happen.
I was driving down the hi way the other day and passed a small little hybrid smart car thing that had a license plate read VEGAN. I was so wishing it was hunting season and I headed home with a kill showing out the back of my truck. I don't mind what others do as long as they don't try to preach to me that my ways are wrong and they are right.
Paleo. It's he way humans survived for over 95% of the time we have existed. I will never go back. Lost 40 lbs in 3 months without working out one time. That tells you something. As for vegetarians and vegans.... whatever floats your boat.
I know several vegans, and they are salt of the earth type people. One of them told me that he isn't technically vegan because he uses honey. That blew my mind. Since they make up about half of the church congregation I attend, our pot lucks are mostly vegan. They make some awesome food. They don't preach or complain if we bring some cheese or sour cream, and the other non-vegans eat it happily. They know I am a hunter, and it doesn't bother them a bit. I guess the moral of the story is that veganism doesn't automatically make one holier than thou.
A vegan does not eat or USE animal products. I think most people who call themself a vegan are not. Countless of everyday type items have animal ingredients in them.
IMO being a vegan is more about hating humans and the world we live in than loving animals. It's an elitist mentality. IMO All you have to do is just step out side and look around, everything is a predator. Birds are looking for bugs to kill. Bugs are looking for smaller bugs to kill. Ants will kill in packs to kill larger bugs. Animals, plants or microorganism, everything has to kill something to survive.