So my local Bowtech dealer who set up my bow, steered me the wrong way so I went in search of another archery shop. I heard good things about this one in particular as it had an indoor range etc... So I headed down to get some expert help on tuning. The place was super busy and has been around for a long time. The owner helped me and I told him about where it was setup etc... He shook his head and did some measurements on the rest, center shot, etc... and made his adjustments and said I was good to go. I then asked about paper tuning and broadhead tunning and he told me to stay away from it, I will drive myself nuts and more than likely end up with a worse shot. I have always been able to keep tight groups and hit my targer, I only had to make a slight adjustment to my site after the gentleman made some changes to my rest. Is there any truth in his words? I find it hard to believe that all of the arrow manufactures have tedious instructions on paper tuning and broadhead tunning and its supposidely a "waste of time"
You need to paper tune...as far as BH tuning...you don't necessarily have to provided you do a walk back tune and everything is inline. When you make adjustments make very small ones...too much one way or another and you'll end up getting frustrated. If it is broken, don't fix it.
Have you checked to see where your broadheads hit in relation to your field tips? I know a guy like that too. He tells his customers to adjust their sights to wherever it is their arrows happen to hit then tries to steer everyone to shoot mechanical heads when they discover the 18 inch difference between FTs and BHs. He is a high-end Mathews/Hoyt dealer too. I know he knows better!
I havent shot my broadheads yet to tell you the truth, but the original crap shop talked me into mechanicals but I think Im going to switch to fixed blades. @Muzzy the dealer who suggested not paper tuning was also a high end Matthews/Hoyt dealer, which I almost bought a Matthwes from but a guy feeling told me otherwise not to
My shop owner will walk right over to the paper as soon as he tweaks anything. Makes you feel comfortable seeing bullet holes through the paper before you leave. I don't paper tune my broadheads, but I have used mechanicals for years and have not any issues with placement or flight. Sounds like he/she is just too busy to handle it all, and wanted you out the door. May not be a bad guy or bad tech, but gave you some poor advice in my opinon.
If everything that he adjusted was done correctly, he's right..there's no need. The guy that tunes or has tuned my bows is a hoyt dealer and has set up who knows how many bows. He can do it just by eyeballing. In the beginning, he never would paper tune my bow..in my mind everything you read or are told required paper tuning. I finally just demanded he do it ..it punched perfect holes, fixed blade muzzys fly like practice points. maybe what your guy meant was if not done right, it can be a headache. I trust my guy now and if he says its right it's right. I'm not defending your guy but maybe he was just busy and if he knows its set up right , theres no reason to prove it to himself. demand he shoot it thru paper just so you know and shoot your broadheads..if they dont hit same place, you got tuning issues. Some of these guys have set up so many bows, there's no need to paper tune. When it comes to pro shops ..you either got it or will never get it. If he knows its important to you, he should do it, if he still won't ..FIND A NEW PRO SHOP Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
My Bowtech tech tunes my bow without paper. I have tested it at home through paper in my garage and he did a perfect job. Why don't you shoot a few through paper and see if your guy is any good? Good luck
As far as paper tuning I really don't get too excited. I do however walk back tune and then broadhead tune with G5 Montecs even though I am planing on shooting Killzone expandables this year. Having a well tuned bow is worth any amount of time it takes to make it that way.
A person doesn't need to specifically paper tune or BH tune but they do need to tune somehow or at least go through the motions just to make sure they are set up correctly.
It's always a good idea to at least check... paper tune may not be the best choice of words. Paper "check" may be a better term as you are checking to see what your arrow is doing as it leaves the bow. As Bruce stated; there are many ways to check your tune. Most are acceptable if in the end, you are able to shoot broadheads, fixed, expandables, large small, field tips whatever with no real difference in point of impact. Extreme confidence will be your result and that is priceless. I was an aircraft electrician for 25 years and anytime we did a repair... our final action was always to operationally check the system. We were usually confident of the repair... but just to make sure we didn't miss something, always checked it out.
Thanks for all the info. This tech seemed to know the exact measurements of where everything should be set up. He pulled out his tape measurer and measured knock point, center shot, arrow height etc... I would still like to paper "test" it on my own for my own piece of mind. Just need to build a quick rig to hold the paper up.
All of that is fine and good but it does not factor in arrow spine, static or dynamic, and that is one reason to tune or, at least, check the tune.
When I got my Bear Lights Out set up at my local shop, I just shot there on a target with FP's and I was dead on. Then when I shot a deer last year using my g5 t3's I was dead on where my FP's hit.
That's great... how did you know that? You've got to check... Many sit in the woods for months, then finally get a shot and don't "know" where their BH is going to go. That makes no sense.
I haven't met a bowhunter in my kneck of the woods that paper tunes. They don't even know what that word means. They just have a bow shop set-up their bows and that's it. I don't trust anybody that much. If i didn't do my own bow work and had somebody else tune it I'd still check it using paper and walk back. Never take an un-proven weapon into battle.
Sure it does. I'd never heard of tuning until earlier this year and I've never had an issue. This tells me that the t3's fly damn near the same as a field point. What I'm saying is that I Aimed at the deer just as I had aimed at the target with field points and it shot the same with no difference. I cant shoot t3's at a target unless I wanna flush $40 down the drain. SO, it does make sense because I simply stated that my broadheads shoot the same as my field points. I didn't know about "tuning". Is this different for some people? Yes, probably. But for my setup i didn't have to do anything. I wasn't saying thats how it is for everyone.
I have not papered in years. I walk back tune and then BH. Shoot some FP & BH at 40 yards. If they hit the same you are good to go. If not, I suggest walk back tune and shoot FP & BH at 40 yards. Then BH tune if you need to.
The t3 is a mechanical. If the bow is even close to being tuned it should fly to the same point of impact as a field point. Broadhead tuning is usually refereed to as tuning fixed blade heads. This should be done anytime you plan on using fixed heads. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
Yeah, but this is the first mechanical Ive shot.When I was shooting fixed I never paper tuned. There's been some awfully cranky people on here the past couple days
