It’s okay, Jeff. Judging from you previous posts and undereducated statements, I believe your school would appreciate such discretion.
If showing you simple math (which you agree to) is indicative of "undereducated", color me guilty. Take off your homer glasses, and you'll see what everyone else does........You guys (and I cringe to use that term) were OVER-RATED.
There's those true colors LOL... I knew you could do it, Jeffy :p Like many others, it all comes back to hating a team that does a whole lot of winning. Yes, we've had our hearts ripped out by the SEC on numerous occassions. We played for the national championship THREE times, this decade.... and only won one title .....and we continue to hang around the top of the rankings. We continue to win football games, both in and out of conference (see "BCS Bowl Game History")... and we don't tuck our tails and disappear into oblivion. So hate my team all want. But, to bash them in a public forum, then question my intelligence for defending my team (as any other member would, theirs) is absolutely ridiculous. I'm just a fan who doesn't appreciate seeing his team ridiculed. Nothing more and nothing less. I have nothing against KY, TN, FL or any other SEC team. I love the game! But it's just that, Jeff... a game. There's no need to question my intelligence with such disdain. In fact, it doesn't appear to be in your best interest So let's just agree to disagree.
Question YOUR intelligence? You're delusional. I'm starting to, now. I don't hate OSU. No reason to. Why would you hate a team your teams handle pretty soundly? And.....what number are you?
Popcorn anyone??? I said it before, and I'll say it again, OSU WAS OVER-RATED!!! You can't be a national championship caliber team without a decent QB and with an O-Line that fails to get the job done time and time again. And when the coach is too damned ignorant to realize that his QB is much better fitted to be a WR, and will NEVER be a good sound decision maker, then that team is destined for some disappointments. I'm just glad it happened in Wisconsin rather than on the stage for the National Championship as it did a couple years ago. Terrell Prior, Jim Tressel, and the O-Line all have been disappointments. And don't point to TP's stats, the GOOD numbers came against "Nobody State," but in the game he NEEDED to play well, he's been mediocre at best. I don't think I've ever seen a QB at this level, with all of this hype, play this poorly when his team needs him the MOST. Even a lot of his completions are on LESS THAN OPTIMAL throws. Tressel could leave yesterday and it wouldn't have been soon enough for me. His "ball-control" football is great when you play weak teams that are never in the game, but when down 21-0, or 14-0 for that matter, you have to have some sort of plan to open it up.
Have you looked at the depth chart at QB lately? You do not want to see Basuerman taking any meaningful snaps.... Ever! The O-line didn't play that bad really. They opened nice holes for Boom. The biggest underachiever on the starting roster is Devier Posey. If it weren't for Duron Carter having to sit this year out, Posey would be holding down a spot on the bench. Pryor isn't as bad as you make him out to be. He is asked to do to much. The problem is we are used to seeing Beanie Wells, Antinio Pittman, Maurice Clarette etc. in the back field. We do not have a dominate running back taking hand offs. Although, I believe we have a couple dominate backs in the wings for next year (and many to follow). It is very aggravating knowing how Tressel does NOT play his best players, he is loyal to a fault. To add... Have you took a look at OSU's out injury list? Half of the starters on defense are out.
For an OSU fan, I have to say you look at things logically. Do people really think coaches at major D1 schools don't put the best talent they have available on the field? Do they really think a coach calls a play he DOESN'T think will work? C'mon people. Some coaches are better than others, but to call Tressel ignorant is ridiculous. The guy has been one of the top D1 football coaches since he got to OSU. Its always "what have you done for me lately". These coaches don't just watch their players on Saturdays, they see them everyday on the practice field. They know a lot more about them than the fans.
I interpreted Scott's post the other way around. Maybe I read it wrong. Eithey way, we see it all the time. Fans wondering why the coach is playing so-and-so, or why he is calling those plays. Sometimes the questions seem logical, but most of the time, its just upset fans that need to blame someone.
I believe Tressel looks at it is unproven game talent and proven game talent. He is not willing to put a young back in when he has a veteran who never fumbles. The fastest way to not see playing time ever again for Tressel is turning the ball over. Tressel plays ball control, he would rather get 3 yards per carry with no turnovers than a dynamic talent in the backfield who has the potential to take it to the house on any given play who could fumble. Look at Carlos Hyde, a fantastic talent at RB. Fumbled and turned the ball over in mop up time a month ago and has yet to see the field again. OSU has Berry who averages like 11 yards per carry, but has only got like 25 touches this year. Why? Because he is young and unproven. Here is a better example. Adrian Peterson would have never received any snaps in a Jim Tressel offense. As dynamic of a play maker in the back field that there is, would never see the field for Tressel.
I believe he has better raw talent on the sideline. But there is a reason he does not play them. He doesn't trust them for whatever reason... Not knowing all of their assignments, prone to turnovers, unproven game talent etc... I believe sometimes he just needs to loosen up and let it all hang out, let some of his raw talent see playing time.
I get what you and Jeff are saying. I guess my question should have "Do you think coaches don't put the players they think gives them the best chance to win on the field?" Thats what I meant anyway.
Are they just "unproven"? I don't really care. Just interesting how you break this down at this time in the season.
Les Miles continues to start Jordan Jefferson when the entire world can see that Jarrett Lee is better for the offense. Proof from last LSU game: Jefferson stats: 4 net yards, 2 fumbles lost, 0 TDs Lee stats: Led the offense to 4 TDs, 0 turnovers This has been happening for the last 3 games, yet Miles continues to start and give Jefferson the majority of the snaps.
So why do you think Miles starts Jefferson? He doesn't want to put the players he thinks gives them the best chance to win on the field? How many games have they lost this year?
I don't follow Ohio State but In your analogy of not playing these proven players Is It maybe that he's not playing them because he's protecting himself for the years ahead with this certain young player at this position not getting Injured?
Sorry, couldn't disagree too much more on some of this stuff. But again, I said Troy Smith was the second best QB on the team years ago as well. He proved how good he was when he got to the next level and did absolutely NOTHING!!! At least TP has some potential as an athlete to play at the next level, but it's just not going to be as a QB. Tressel would have done TP a favor moving him to WR and getting a QB in there. TP WOULD be a Heisman candidate were he playing receiver and had a QB to through him the ball. He's HUGE, amazingly fast, and should be able to catch. With his size and speed, if he could catch, he'd be a very likely 1st round draft pick at WR. Like Plaxico Burress without all the baggage and FASTER.......
I have no idea. Maybe as a big FU to all LSU fans because 2 years ago when Lee was playing horrible, we begged for then true freshman Jefferson, but now that we have seen Jefferson destroy the offense for 2 years, we are begging for Lee back. Again, I have no idea how the mind of Les Miles works. The man continues to run the option to the short side of the field at least 5x a game, which has resulted in a net gain of -17 yards this year. But yes, LSU is somehow 7-0, thanks to Tennessee not being able to count to 11.
This is all so completely wrong. Terrelle Pryor would be a horrible WR. He will most likely end up being a TE. Straight line speed =/= quick/change of pace speed And Terrelle Pryor is scared to death to get hit. He probably could have been groomed into a 1st round DE though with his size and speed.
This baffles me. Are these coaches coaching to win college games, or put players in the NFL? Boy, if Smith was the second best QB on his team, imagine what the other guy could have done since Smith won the Heisman and led them to the NC game.
