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  1. pseshooter89

    pseshooter89 Weekend Warrior

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    When shooting with broadheads. At 30 yards I'm shooting center of the target and a tad bit low. Maybe 1-2 inches low, but centered up. With practice tips, I'm shooting high and to the right every time.

    When shooting 40 yards with broadheads, I'm shooting a tad bit high, but centered up. When I switch to practice tips though, I'm shooting high to the right, once again. At 20 yards with practice tips and broadheads, I'm shooting center of the target.

    What in the world could be wrong? I bought a broadhead target, but those broadheads are taking it's tow on it. It's a white block target with a bear, moose, small deer and turkey in the middle, and an elk on it. I'm definitely going to switch to rhinehart this year.
     
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    Personally I wouldnt mess with it if your broadheads are consistent. I am guessing you bow needs a little bit of tuning.
     
  3. Bonesaw

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    Are you shooting fixed broadheads and are the grains matched to the field tips? Have you paper tuned your bow? Are you shooting carbon or aluminum arrows? Are you sure the cockfeather in the correct position?
     
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    Have you switched arrows with your heads ? Make sure your heads are spin testing good .
     
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    Broadhead Tuning.jpg

    Hopefully this will help
     
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    I'm not sure what fixed broadheads mean. The broadheads I'm using are 100 grain. They are the kind with the black tip and with the 3 razors and they are blue. I'm not sure the grain of the field tips. I have never paper tuned my bow. I'm using carbon arrows (only use carbon). 340 spine and 400 total grain arrows. I'm practicing here lately with my draw on 60#. The cockfeather is always facing up ^, in the correct position.
     
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    Fixed means that there are no moving parts on the head such as muzzys or slick tricks. Mechanicals the blades will deploy upon impact. These are heads like the grim reapers and rage.
     
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    What moving parts does a Muzzy have?
     
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    Fixed means NO moving parts! Are you blind! :poke: JK.
     
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    If it were me I would shoot through some paper. What are you using for a rest?
     
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    I use fixed blades then.
     
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    I had to reread that post. Got ya. lol
     
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    Nevermind. I just realized I have no idea what kind of bow he's shooting.
     
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    I would def paper tune your bow...that should be your starting point, make the needed adjustments to shoot bullet holes. But if your broad heads are shooting like you say...you may just need to make slight sight adjustments...if your shooting a little low with your 30yd pin...drop the pin down a little and if your shooting a little high with your 40yrd pin raise your 40yrd pin up a little...maybe you've done this already?...
     
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    Bonesaw, I'm using a WB.

    You can't adjust only one pin. If I adjust my 30 yard pin to hit higher at 30 yards, then I will hit higher at 40 yards, and I'm already shooting too high at 40 yards.

    My broadheads are pretty much accurate. Maybe an inch or 2 high or an inch or 2 low, but spot on. My field tips are what is going all over the place. High to the right from 40 yards every single time. Sometimes, they even go so high they miss the target.

    Is there anyway you can adjust ONLY the sights that need to be adjusted?
     
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    You aren't tuned if your field points and broadheads aren't hitting together. It sounds like you adjusted you sights to your broadheads. I sight in to my FP and then tune where my BHs hit in relation to that. In your example your BHs are low and left. Use the diagram below and the tuning guide in this link http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf

    Broadhead Tuning Diagram.jpg
     
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    I sighted my field tips in at 20 yards, then I grabbed my broadhead and just shot from 30 and 40 yards with those to see how my broadheads were doing. If I adjust my 40 yard pin to shoot lower, then my 20 yard pin will be off and my 30 yard pin will shoot even lower than it does now. I had never shot the target with a broadhead up until a couple of days ago.
     
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    Cant you adjust each pin individually?
     
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    None of your posts sound like you're tuned up.

    But let's try to figure this out for you. First give us a run down of your set-up. Bow, DL, DW, type of arrow, arrow length, broadhead, tip weight (do your BHs and FPs weight match), sight and rest. Also how long have you been shooting?

    There's several possibilities as to what can be wrong and it could be a combination.

    That's why I ask for his sight information. He should be able to adjust each pin separately, but I believe he has more going on than just that.
     
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    I'm using the basic 3 pin sight that comes with PSE model bows. It came with my old PSE Nova back in 08 when I bought it. I'll post a few pics of the sight and bow themselves. You can only adjust all 3 sights with the allen wrench, you can't just adjust one at a time for some reason.

    The bow I'm shooting is a 2011 Hoyt Rampage, not the XT, the basic Rampage with the cam 1/2. The draw length is 27". The draw weight is set on 60#. I'm shooting the ICS Hunter arrows 28" in length I believe, 100 grain broadhead. I'm not sure what the grain of the field tips are, but definitely lighter than the BH's. I'm using a WB rest and a 3 pin sight. I started shooting bows in 2006 so about 5 years. I'm used to shooting bows set on #70, but the only Rampage they had in stock was a 50-60# bow, but I noticed it's a lot more comfortable to shoot and draw for hours and hours at a time.

    Q: If I switched to a 125 grain broadhead, would that compensate to weaken the spine since it'd be a lot cheaper than buying all new arrows, having them cut, inserted, and shooting all over again just 11 days before bow season? The spine of my arrows are 340, which is stiff to #60. The shaft is 9.3GPI. It comes out to be a 397 grain arrow.

    I've searched and searched Google for my sight and can't find it. I'll get a picture of the sight I'm using and post it in the next 5-10 minutes.

    PS: Thanks for your help I appreciate it.
     
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