You're paying them. Seems like they should be more worried about being a dream outfitter/guide. Especially if they're expecting a tip at the end.
I agree with parts of the article, I also understand tipping the guide but based on what the outfitter charges why is a hunter expected to tip the entire staff. Same thing bothers me at hotels you spend over $100 a night yet the cleaning staff need tips to survive?
Tipping in America has become a means for businesses to under pay their employees, avoid social security tax match and pass the responsibility of providing a fair wage on to the customer via guilt trip. In most other parts of the world a tip is small reward for exceptional service above and beyond what is expected. Not an entitlement.
i agree, tipping has become outrageous. IF i purchase something for $2000, then that should be what I pay. You asked me for $2000, yet now im a jackash because i paid you what you asked for? How does that work. So you ask me for $2000 but you really want $2500. How the heck does that work.
I pay taxes on every single $ I make, I should just work for tips and not declare it if I did that I could go on a couple guided trips a year.
For the most part yes. There is strong outfitter lobby in Canada that does a good job making sure their interest is written in law.
Hence why I will never use an outfitter. Not gonna do it. Ill stick with my hard earned 100 inch deer and maybe a do it yourself hunt out west one year.
It is what it is. I can't see missing out on some incredible hunts and experiences because of having to use an outfitter.
I am pro outfitter if I travel to hunt I do can a do it yourself deer and bear hunt at home or deer hunt in adjacent states. I value scouting I need to have 3 reasons to be sitting where I am without extensive scouting you are guessing, If I am going for moose, mule deer or antelope I am using an outfitter simply because the scouting is what you pay for IMO.
I've used a guide/outfitter on a few Canadian black bear hunts and also a Newfoundland moose hunt. The black bear guides set up the bait sites and kept them going with daily restocking runs with food stuff they obtained. Both bear hunts we stayed in cabins that were "basic", with one providing cooked meals for a higher price and the other the booking agent and his wife did the cooking. The moose hunt was a bit more deluxe, but I only saw one moose at about 400 yards and only one of our group even had a shot. Tips were plainly expected, despite the fact that we paid a goodly amount for their services, drove there at significant expense and paid handsomely for tags. Is the idea that every hunter is a rich American who can afford to drop big bucks for every aspect of the hunt? I often wondered how the outfitter and guide tipped at a restaurant after expecting a big tip for doing their jobs? I work in a professional occupation where there is no expectation of getting a tip for working overtime or going above-and-beyond, let alone doing what I am paid to do.
I don't hunt halfass, I might even go a bit over aboard with most efforts. If a guide is willing to put the same effort into my hunt that I am and knowing that all you can to in fair chase hunting is control your effort and let the outcome take care of its self. So with that in mind I tend to tip very well. Most of the outfitter and guilds I have met in my life time are just plan solid individuals, If can't support them then I need another hobby.
I also struggle with the tip concept and maybe some people in the industry can shed light on it but to me it seems a little bit out there for anyone in any idustry to "expect" a minimum tip. The fact the a previous guide was saying that turned me off even more? I have no problem tipping a guide that goes above and beyond what is expected, but I am paying for good quality guide service, anything less than that to me doesn't automatically deserve a tip? I understand guiding is a service, but again that is what the $2000 bill is for?
