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How much more before we see the negatives?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Vabowman, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. Bowhunterlink

    Bowhunterlink Weekend Warrior

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    you almost made a good point. The post was about how fast technology was progressing before it’s not really bow hunting anymore. Not about dems or repubs and certainly not about people buying ARs. I could care less if a company makes the repeating vertical bow, and could care less if your certainly old but not dead self buys one. Maybe you can create a show called “Don’t really bowhunt or die”.
     
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    Missed point I see. Now heres my issue. There are guys that can rapidity shoot recurve, its skill. Guys with compounds that have killed deer twice as far as the average bow hunter shoots. Guys that get their monster bucks in near dark conditions. So I'm thinking a person that buys a repeating compounds for a clean follow up could be in good standing on a bow hunt or die site.
    See the thing about bow hunting is you need the skill to get them in close, know the best location, understand their movement and have the skill to get the FIRST Good shot off. Now we've all been there on the off or bad shot if you've hunted long enough and dear God we all read the " ****e happens " post during season on ALL hunting sites.
    I'd rather see the, I was able to get off a follow up before they got away and a great pic.
    Personally...my old but not dead self, well I'm too cheap to buy such a bow. Unlike most compound hunters I still shoot instinctive with my compound, no special sites with lights not 1200 dollar bow 70 # with all the lights and whistles. No night vision scopes ect,ect
    Just a simple venture by Mission 49#'s and I do just fine. I'm also fine with how or what ever all other hunters use as long as it's legal. I dont think they should make their own , almost a bow hunt or die site, because they strive to make hunting and prep to hunting easier than mine.Then again I don't measure a hunters skill by the size of the rack they have in their " trophy" pic. either. I've also never measure a man by his shoe size.
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  3. Vabowman

    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    That was funny..that last sentence...I don't care who ya are!
     
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    I can't like this enough, you and I have very similar thinking.
    Yes, I have a compound bow with 80% let off, drop away, F.O. sights, and a release aid. Rangefinders that I'll use if I can, but I practice judging yardage all year long and will take a shot without having to zap first if I feel good about my number. I do not have scentlok, ozone machine, or anything like that. I check the wind and check it often, that's my scent control method.
    I'm almost as in to muzzleloading as I am into archery, but have zero interest in an inline. I have a sidelock that I use either patched roundball or a conical in. I would just use a CF before I'd have any interest in an in-line. I don't have an issue with them, it's just the way I'm wired.

    To digress, I was at the local shooting range last year when I met a guy that was sponsored, can't remember by who, for 3d shooting. There were two shoots that coming weekend, one was fairly close, wouldn't be that busy, and was "no rangefinders allowed". The other was another hour drive, would get a much bigger turn out, and was marked yardage. I mentioned I was going to the 1st one, as it was in the timber and much better practice for my elk hunting, and he said he was going to the 2nd one. I figured it was because of more people...better advertising/exposure...but then he surprised me. He went off about how he thinks no rangefinders allowed shoots are crap, shouldn't even be a thing, and that they promote people to take unethical shots "in this day and age". I asked him if he'd ever practiced learning to judge yardage as a skill, and he went off again about how unethical it is to take a shot at an animal without first zapping it.
    When I was in my twenties I really looked up to the sponsored, top tier shooters that I saw at shoots. There was no such thing as a marked yardage shoot anywhere near our area, a top shooter always had good yardage judging skill...you wouldn't ever earn a sponsor without it.
    His rant got my hackles up a bit, so I couldn't resist. I got my rangefinders from my bag and handed them to him. I told him to choose something for me to judge. He chose a tree, I judged it, he zapped it. He chose 4 more objects and we repeated the sequence.
    I was within 1-2 yards of the first four he chose, and 3 yards off on the last one. He handed the rangefinders back and quit talking to me.
     
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    Perfect!
     
  6. Vabowman

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    Thank you sir. Again, Im not "judging" pun intended! But I have killed 64 deer with a bow and not one was killed with using a range finder. To me, and for me, part of bow hunting, a huge part is getting close..read my signature. to me it's the reason I do it.
     
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    Absolutely. The excitement of having one really close. Probably why I like old sidelock hunting so much.

    I live for the elk rut. Calling in a 600 lb animal, that is raging pi**ed, to a close distance is something I can't compare to anything else on this planet. I do not get one every year, in fact I'm on a four year dry spell right now, but I've had encounters with them that I'll always remember for the rest of my days. Encounters where I didn't even get a chance to draw.
    I often see people post or talk about their furthest archery shot they've ever made, like it is something impressive. I'm way more impressed by"I shot my elk at 5 yards this year". Getting that close and getting it done is really impressive.
     
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    exactly! The closer the better...I don't see the enjoyment of long range kills...it's not for me. there I go again, stones in a glass house:whip:
     
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    May have my answer to this question
     

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