I was simply going to replace a toilet. That's it! Rip the old one out, wax ring, new one in. 30 minutes hardly any money and done deal. Noooooooooooo can't happen that way. That would be all too easy. I get looking around at the linoleum. I may as well put down some ceramic tile before I replace the toilet. Actually the shower is kind of old too. Before I put the floor down I should replace it and run the tile all the way to the wall underneath the new shower. Well hell before I do that I guess it's not that big of a bathroom for some new sheetrock. Know what it could use a new vanity and medicine cabinet. As long as I'm doing that a new fan and light wouldn't hurt anything either. Trim around the windows, door and baseboard look pretty ugly too. May as well replace the fixtures to match everything too. TP holder, towel holder etc..... Yeah that should about do it I think. Maybe I'll just put the new toilet in?
The sheetrock ... well looks like it wasn't exactly done very good. You can see the mud on all the seams, tape coming off corners, a hole from a hockey stick (don't ask lol) some moisture damage etc... I was going to just put some killz on the water damage areas and paint, but hell as long as I'm ripping the whole thing apart why not. It's the last neglected room in the house to bring up to date. And it's fairly small. May as well go all out.... I guess.
Don't forget your vapor barrier:D Oh, and I know about the small projects turning into bigger ones. This was supposed to be a simple resetting of pavers, which turned into this: Tearing down a few walls turned into this:
Really the bathroom will only be a week long job. Most of the time will be spent having your mud, thinset and grout dry. There really isn't much work in a bathroom.... Unless you plan to move plumbing around.
Yeah it shouldnt' be too bad. It's a fairly small bathroom too. I'm not (planning on) moving any plumbing or electric. Once I get on it I usually go on a mission to get it done. Hey you're a construction guy.... any recommendations for thinset and grout? Any better than other product that I should look for or not use?
I use Laticrete megabond thinset. It is nice and "creamy". It holds the 1/4 x 1/4 trowel pattern extremely well. I also use the Laticrete brand grout. You can get it at Lowes. I also much prefer cement board over hardybacker.
Buckeye.....IF he went with 1/4" board....would he even need to tape it? I assume he'd need spacer covers for his electrical switches/boxes. I don't know about the tape. But, if I could do it and NOT go all the way to the studs, that's the way I'd go. You'd lose 1/2" each way in the room.
He is saying, rather than gut your bathroom drywall all the way to the studs, he would laminate 1/4 board over your existing board. This is an option, but if I had water damage anywhere I would just gut it to the framing.
Yes, or he would have exposed rolled edges at 4 feet, all of his corners and angles would be exposed also. Not to mention all of the screw heads that would need spotted.
I install my board, vertically. I agree on the corners. But, for your butt joints, couldn't you just mud them? You'd be (if you installed, vertically) on the stud CL (or, would it matter.....with rock behind it?). Just asking.
I only install vertically on commercial jobs (for fire ratings), residential I always lay them down to create less butt joints. Except for walls under 4' wide, I stand those up to create no butt joint. As for not bedding and taping, I would be afraid of the mud cracking especially in a bathroom with all of that moisture. I personally do not finish drywall, I have never saw anyone not tape and bed even on a layover. Although, I am certainly no expert on finishing drywall, I always have someone else do it.
Gotcha. I see what you're saying now. As long as I have to tape/mud/sand etc... I'll just tear it down. It's really not that big ... won't take long. I also question the insulation on the 2 exterior walls (which I'm assuming going to add to the list). p.s. I am FAR from an expert too
