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How do we fight radical Islam?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Hooker, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. 130Woodman

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    Your the one that brought up the term in the first place.
    again first step is admitting there is a problem. I know the right and the left are spitting hairs with the radical talk but call a spade a spade and move on to fix it.
     
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    Giving the power to the states to determine if a person should or shouldn't own a firearm will do little to prevent someone from getting their hands on a gun. And that's firsthand experience from one of the strictest gun law states in the country.

    Background checks are all fine and dandy but how have they stopped the last few "mass" shooting. If I'm not mistaken all the firearms have been purchased legally. Letting federal or state handle the checks isn't goin to stop that when someone just decides to do something.

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    Exactly right. There isn't a background check to buy heroine or methamphetamine, it's just flat out illegal.....and I could probably go get my hands on some from a kid at the nearest highschool. They could completely ban guns in this country and it would be the same.
     
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    And If they think there won't be a black market on guns they are on heroine and methods anyway.
     
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    The ban isn't going to be the problem. How well does anyone think a confiscation of the firearms that are out there woukd go? Even during the last awb as long as it was manufactured before the ban it was perfectly legal to own.

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    No offense, but Illinois isn't even close to one of the strictest in the country. As far as I know, with the few clicks of a mouse, I can have several guns of my choice at my dealer in 3 days. What guns can't you buy that you can get elsewhere?
    The only difference is the FOID, which is nothing more than another background check.
    Unless you live in Chiraq, we don't have it that bad.
     
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    Was meaning more along the lines of Chicago, which i know isn't whole state. But if you talk to anyone that doesn't live in the state we're worse off. The things we're used to doin is far more than what it takes in alot of states to own a firearm.

    Actually unless their handguns you can have them next day ha. And the experience I was talking about isn't so much about the laws, it's has to do with the state system of regulating who has firearms is a joke along with being put on a list to prevent you from owning a gun like germ was talking about.

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    Human nature to make everything so complicated it just turns into a mess. I can cut mass shootings down by at least 85% in a year...all you have to do is kick the muslims and mexicans out of the country and keep them out. We're making the same mistake that Europe made by putting their touchy feely BS in front of common sense.

    If you can find a way to keep guns out of the hands of democrats you'll solve probably 12% of the remaining 15% of that problem.
     
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    Does anyone really buy that the reason the DOJ is scrubbing the 911 phone call transcripts made by Marteen from any mention of Islam, ISIS, or Allah, is because they don't want to give any more attention to his cause? I mean really? Talk about trying to pull the wool over people's eyes, what a sorry sad joke. Next they'll be saying that his newly purchased gun manual told him to do it.
     
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    No, they are doing it for the same reason that they dropped the investigation on this guy and likely a lot of others...because the administration is full of islamic sympathizers. They'd rather see americans killed than to shed any bad publicity on Islam. It's obvious they endorse the islamic violence based on the cumulative evidence of their willingness to ignore it and try to cover up for it. It's gross, they should all be tried for treason and sentenced accordingly.
     
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    While I agree that they are Islamic sympathizers and a bunch of criminals, that goes for 99% of politicians and from both sides of the isle as well as in between. I guess when you look at the big picture, mass shootings have skyrocketed under Obama but when you look at the death rate in our country, only 1% is from murder and out of all the murders, only 1% of THAT is from mass shootings. So I know most of this is a game between the media and the government trying to push hot topics but it's just repulsive because so many people fall into the trap. It doesn't help that many millennials rally for a cause just because they want to be a part of something, regardless if they understand or truly care about that cause or not is another story. It's shocking how many stand atop the rug that covers reality.
     
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    So true. I just saw some real stats that your odds of being killed by a gun are actually .001% unless you're a gangbanger. But tell people that there's a gun problem and fudge the stats, you've got a bunch of sheep believing that you're going to be shot going to the grocery store.

    If this freak didn't call 911, Obama and the media would be denying that it had anything to do with Islam. Just another homophobic psycho with scary guns. I believe even he knew that, and that's why he made the call, it's public record. And they're still trying to downplay it! If he had left this in a letter, it would have disappeared.
     

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