well if Christians had to be "all in" then there would be a LOT more shootings at gay clubs and abortion clinics. And many more people being stoned to death.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. The Bible calls a sin a sin, and we are all sinners. It gives no such commandment. Did it happen back in those times, yes, is the Bible also a historical book that records what happened during that time, yes, but the Bible gives no such commandment.
If I lie am I not considered a Christian? I understand what you are saying but I am of the thought that any religion you believe in is not black and white/all or nothing. This will go on forever... Sorry for the hijack Hooker.
There is no single way to believe. Which are the real Christians? Catholics, Lutherans, Protestants to name a few. Each is a variation on the same core belief.
The basis of Christianity isn't "if you sin you aren't a Christian". The basis of Christianity IS if you admit you are a sinner and believe that by God, through his Son's death and resurrection, you can be forgiven and given mercy to have everlasting life. So many people distort Christianity to be that Christians think they are perfect, when in fact it's the complete opposite, true Christians adamantly attest that they AREN'T perfect. Christianity doesn't have a denomination, it's the Bible. How Christianity is practiced in terms of a church service means nothing if the content isn't Biblical.
Was this guy not already flagged by the FBI and still legally bought the gun a week before the shooting?
HE was investigated multiple times by the FBI, but reportedly passed or was cleared in the investigations. Innocent people are investigated all the time. Don't know what would need to be changed in order for him to have been "correctly" flagged.
Ugh. Stop this argument. This would probably apply to 90% "christians" if you want to go this route. Let them "modernize" their religion all they want. That is a good thing in this context.
YES. That is why I said you would have to change how the FBI evaluates and can persecute potential terrorists. Which would likely be in conflict with current law and possibly the constitution. It would also likely cause arrest of non-threat Muslims.
Ugh, no. I'm not claiming to know anyone's heart but if someone blatantly disobeys their religion's founding beliefs then, yes, it's a very fair question. Especially when their ideology blatantly teaches and commands it. Yes, it would apply across the board, I agree. Of course people may not purposely disobey their religion but it all resides in the heart and that's not up for me to decide.
First, acknowledge that there is something to this ideology. Because about half the country will bring up islamaphobia if you dare to question the ideology. But really, there's not much you can do without bringing up a bigger problem. This guy was born in the country and who knows if he did anything to justify being thrown on the watch list.
Ok, so setting religions aside now that we've all rehashed what we've argued about a dozen times before, is there anything that can be done? It's a crime issue, regardless of motive, and most have said there's nothing we can really do, myself included. I don't think we should give up privacy for security and you can't legislate crime away so is it one of those "it is what it is" things?
I feel that this is "it is what it is" type of things. There is no way to fight terrorism 100% - As long as there are mentally unstable people there will always be terrorism.
Yes I have no clue, however Leviticus seemed to think (and wrote) otherwise. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. But hey, I have no clue and apparently it gives no such commandment. BTW you won't find it filed under History. I don't think "God" saying "they shall surely be put to death" is a reference to a historical event that had already happened, do you? Otherwise, such a literary masterpiece would say "they have already been put to death"....
That's referring to God's judgement, not mine. In no way shape or form does it command Christians to kill homosexuals. We can take this to another thread if you'd like to discuss the Bible.
81 people were shot in Chicago last week! 150 already this month. And, handguns are illegal there. What does Obama say about that? I understand the ideology of freedom of religion. But, at what cost can we continue to deal with the immense intolerance? Words on a page are one thing, following those teachings to the letter is entirely something else. Read the Quran and be afraid.
There is no way to fix it. The answer is simply that simple. Im with Brad, 150 people killed in Chicago in one months time via guns in a gun free city is just as big if not a bigger problem then a isolated random terrorist act. Evil exist and it isnt going anywhere. Even if you ban guns, muslims, build walls...the end result will still be acts of hatred and evil. That's part of our free will as man.
Would anyone be surprised if these incidents were in fact not "RANDOM" acts of terror at all but a calculated strategy to shift the mindset of the American people? I for one would not be.
