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Home field after the ALDS

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  1. NY Bowhunter

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    So the Rangers and Yankees advance to the ALCS. The Yankees have a better record than the Rangers. Shouldn't home field advantage be determined by the better record after the ALDS? I understand the Yanks are the "wildcard" team. But doesn't a better record (especially coming out of the AL East) mean anything for the two teams playing in the ALCS? Same as the Rays vs. Rangers. The Rays had the better record and got home field advantage. Just because they won their watered down division means the deserve home field advantage in the ALCS?
     
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    WHy does it matter "coming out of the AL East"? You forget about the 90's?
     
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    Probably doesn't. And I understand you can't take into consideration where they played and how the competition within the divisions were every year. I'm just saying ............. Better record in a tougher division. Just an observation.
     
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    It's ludicrous to think you could make that determination, historically. The east has NOT always been as it is, currently. You can't make rules like this up on the fly.
     
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    Ok... forget about the division thing. Why not the better record of the two teams going into the ALCS gets home field advantage? What's so ludicrous about that? Not nearly as ludicrous as whoever wins the All Star game gets home field advantage. Matter of fact it should be the same for the WS too.
     
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    I agree with you on the all-star game thing. Ludicrous.

    You have to KEEP winning your division sacred. What you ought to do as a wild card team....is count your blessings. Some real baseball purists think their mere appearance in the playoffs is a joke.
     
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    Would you feel the same if the Rangers won the WC and Yankees had home field with a worse record? ;) The Rangers won their division outright, I think they deserve home field advantage. As far as the WS, I'd like it to go to the team with the better record or alternate years between the leagues. The all star game deciding it is a joke.
     
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    Well judging by recent history of "wildcard" teams I think the baseball purists should rethink their logic. Do you think the Yankees being in the playoffs are a joke? Did you think the Rays were that much of a better team (if at all) than the Yankees?

    I really think so yeah. After the 1st round, obviously the two teams standing are there for a reason.

    Look I'm not really all that worried about NOT having home field advantage. The Rangers have more than proven they are beatable at home. And the Yankees can win on the road. Just an observation. Nothing more ... nothing less. Certainly not whining like all Yankee and Cowboy fans do.
     
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    Winning your division has to be worth something don't you think? If your that good It shouldn't matter anyway.
     
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    Absolutely. Home field advantage in the ALDS.

    How do they decide who gets home field advantage in the ALDS between the two teams that won their divisons? Shouldn't the same formula apply for the two teams that won the ALDS? I don't think that's too "ludicrous"
     
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    Sure you are.

    Winning the div. will ALWAYS trump a wild card berth. As it should.
     
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    Nope.. not really. If you could see through your anti yankee goggles you 'd have some more input that made sense on this. But........ You're a baseball "purest" that thinks the wild card shouldn't exist LMFAO. Like I said , I could really care less about home field advantage as far as the Yankees and Rangers go. Clearly the Rangers get beat at home and clearly the Yankees win on the road. Not what it's about no matter how much you want it to turn into me "whining" about the Yankees. All I know is......... the Sox might sniff the ALCS or WS in another 80 or so years. Maybe you're a little angry.
     
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    What do the SOX have to do with this whiney party?

    Look......you're whining about something that is the way it is.....and for good reason. Everyone "gets it", except you. You may as well be whining about the height of the mound.....or suggesting 95' bases.
     
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    Nothing worse than a whining Yankee. Well there is, like a mass murderer, or a rapist, or something to that nature but a whining Yankee is right up there with them.
     
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    So now it would make sense that the Yankees tanked the AL east to get the wild card so they could have home field advantage against the Rangers????:busted:

    Your really grasping for straws NYB. Maybe the Yanks should have won their division. In all honesty, I really can't believe you posted this crap.
     
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    Wow you guys are really stretching this into something it's not. Why is it THAT ludicrous of a thought. Hell the wildcard never even existed. How ludicrous was that thought when it was introduced? Some of you need to think outside of the box and scratch the "it is what it is" attitude. If that was the case we'd have NO changes in ANY sport. Again as it stands now at this point in the playoffs the Rangers and Yankees are both division winners (meaning they won the ALDS). Equal with where they stand in the POST season. Is it really that far fetched of a thing to see? Like I said I really don't even care, it was just an observation. The Rangers just dumped two at home last week. The Yankees have won there on the road. That's not the point.
     
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    Never question us when we tell you......you're NOT a baseball guy.

    When you find yourself in a hole......quit digging.
     
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    While I might agree with that, this isn't just a baseball scenario. I can't imagine a wildcard playoff team in any sport being ranked like a division winner in the playoff structure, regardless of how far they advance in the playoffs.
     
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    I understand what you're sayin NY.... and its not as far as a stretch as people are blowing it up to be. Winning your division should be a goal and be rewarded, but at the same time if your the only team in your division winning more than 50 games and the wild card is in a division where three teams have over 100 wins... it doesnt seem fair to be "penalized" by playing in a tougher division by not having home-field adv. in the playoffs...

    At the same time... the only way around it is something like college football where strength of schedule comes into play and that is a whole new can of worms to open.

    It may not be perfect, but it is the most simple/easy way to do it.
     
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