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High dollar bow, cheap arrows? Huh??

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by mobow, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. mobow

    mobow Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I understand the need to pinch pennys. Hell, I don't know many more that are more tight with their money than me. However.....

    I see this all the time at the shop I work at, and I just don't understand it. Folks will come in and buy a top of the line......let's say Hoyt. Put a high dollar drop away rest, high dollar sights and a good quiver. Ok, so.....they've spent well over $1000 getting the "good stuff." Now, get me the cheapest carbon arrows you have, because all I'm going to do is lose them anyway.

    HUUUHHHHH????? !!!!!

    Ok, yes. My job is to sell. But, I get nothing from a sale, so I don't really care what someone buys. But that logic makes no damn sense to me at all. Most folks don't realize how beneficial good arrows really are. And, if they were to buy good arrows from the beginning, they wouldn't lose/break as many, and in the long run not have to buy as many arrows, thus.....saving money. I just don't get it. Ok, I'm done now.
     
  2. Buck Magnet

    Buck Magnet Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I get where you are coming from, but most guys really don't need the accuracy for hunting that a $150/dozen set of arrows will give you over a $60/dozen set of arrows. Now, if they plan on doing spot or 3-D thats a different story.
     
  3. buckeye

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    Or a setup that costs 1200 bills shooting Eastman heads from Walmart at 9 bucks a pack....
     
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    I still shoot aluminum.. so kiss off!:deer:
     
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    Do the Gold Tip XT's fall in your category as cheap? Just wondering....
     
  6. Rick James

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    Nothing wrong with that, I'd rather shoot aluminum than low dollar carbon.

    I see it too all the time mobo, I guess it' not "cool" to have quality arrows though.....
     
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    easier on the pocketbook.
     
  8. Brandon8807

    Brandon8807 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I use GoldTip XT's also Buckmaster, don't worry about it haha. I can still shoot good groups from 40 yards. I actually just purchased a dozen online that were slightly used for $50.
     
  9. Aaron

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    Yeh, I mean they are inexpensive, but if you call Gold Tips Skimping.... then I'd like to know what one would should be shooting....?

    In 2007 I was out shooting 60 yards, shot a sequence of 3 arrows at my 3D deer target. Just messing around, had my cousin and GF out there showing off a little bit. I touched off 3 shots, I knew I hit the target all three times, but with my eyes at 60yards I couldnt really see where. When I got up to the target and saw all 3 arrows touching each other, my jaw Dropped!! I'll never do it again, and be lucky to do it at 30 yards, but I was using GT Expedition Hunters, If they didnt shoot well, I don't think that would have ever happened at 60 yards.
     
  10. Brandon8807

    Brandon8807 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Goldtips are nice arrows. I myself just can't justify spending that much money on arrows. I know that robinhooding an arrow isn't supposed to happen that often, but I've done it 5 times already in my young shooting "career". It just gets to be too expensive. I also hate to be shooting an arrow that costs me like 35 bucks at a deer, because in a lot of cases your arrow gets broken or you never even find it. I don't consider GT cheap, and I doubt mobow does either.
     
  11. Schultzy

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    I hear ya Mobow, whats the purpose of a good bow If you don't have decent arrows to back It up.

    What gets me more Is allot of the archery shops I've been to the techs will try and push the high buck compounds 1st before the lower priced compounds. Since when does a person need to spend 1000.00 dollars on a complete setup to be successful In bow hunting?
     
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    great observation mobow!!!!!! i hear ya
     
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    Help an old fart out.....

    I'm shooting some cheap walmart carbons and some decent Easton Carbons(St. Epic)....anyway, all of them are trimmed at 28" and I actually have three different brands.....when I'm target shooting and I seperate them by the different brands they will group together as in 3 different groups...if I jumble them up and don't know which brand I'm shjooting they all bunch together....I cannot tell the differance in how they fly....

    So why would I want to spend the extra $ ?

    I'm not opposed to it...but I don't want to spend the money to look cool.

    SB
     
  14. mobow

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    So do I, brother. The XX78 Super Slam is an inexpensive arrow, but not cheap. The tolerances are tight, and they are great arrows.

    Schultzy, I agree with you 100% on pushing an expensive compound that isn't needed. We don't do that, because honestly, it makes no difference to our profit margin. The markup on bows isn't substantial anyway, and it's close to the same for a $400 bow and a $900 bow. We sell the customer what they want, not what we think they "need."

    Again, I totally understand not wanting to spend $150 on a dozen arrows. But you don't need to spend that much to get good arrows. My only point is, money isn't an option where the bow and accessories are concerned. I just don't understand the logic behind "get me the cheapest arrows you have, because I'm going to lose them anyway."

    Good arrows really do make a difference. People spend their hard earned money on top of the line equipment, and one of the reasons for that is accuracy. Then buy the crappiest arrows they can find......LOL......anyway.....

    I'll admit that for the majority, it doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of difference. But the logic cracks me up......
     
  15. Rick James

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    I would not consider GoldTip XT's garbage arrows, I actually think they are likely the best "budget" carbon out there. I actually hunted with them in 06'. If you cut them from both ends when making, you will end up with shafts just about as straight as their pro series arrow.
     
  16. Christine

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    Just to play cheap arrow advocate here.... ;)

    If the shooter was really convinced that they were just going to lose them anyhow and they're not shooting competitions, why not buy the cheapest arrows that will get the job done?

    Other than spending more money, what difference would they get with the more expensive arrows?
     
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    For most of my shooting my concern with arrows is the consistancy of their spine on each arrow and across the dozen. To get those arrows is not neceesarily expensive but it is not inexpensive either, anywhere from $100-$125 or so.

    If I am shooting at varmints, squirrels and stuff in the woods where the arrow may encounter a tree or rock then I'll use something that costs less and won't make me cringe if it breaks.
     
  18. mobow

    mobow Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Accuracy and consistency. Along with that goes confidence. And they would soon realize the benefits of all 3.

    I guess I need to define "cheap." In my world, cheap does not necessarily describe cost, or at least completely. "Cheap" is junk. Though in the archery world......you generally get what you pay for.
     
  19. Schultzy

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    Good to hear Don! There's a couple different shops I won't go to being from what I explained Is the exact way they operate.
     
  20. Christine

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    How much more accurate is a 'good' arrow over a cheap one? Would your average bowhunter even notice?

    If a guy can't group arrows well enough to be confident to shoot at 35 yards but keeps his shots to 25 yards, what's the problem? :)
     

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