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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Afflicted, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Afflicted

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    Anybody else have this issue? I can find an HHA numbered tape that lines up with my 20yd shots and my 30yd shots but the 40yd will be off and if you get a tape that has the 20yd and 40yd spaced correct the 30 will be off.
    Thinking I need to just make some custom tapes. Any solutions?
     
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    Swampthing Weekend Warrior

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    Did you sight in at 20 and 60 yards?
     
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    I have in the past but not really that consistent at 60yd so I hate to rely on those shots as accurate. I've own the site for years and I'm always checking it and tweaking it as needed. I'm just realizing that the tapes are not an exact science because I think each bows draw weight, cam rate and arrow weight are so much different the arch of the arrow flight is different for every bow. This is my theory so I was hopping some other would chime in.
     
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    You have to shoot 20 and 60. Those tapes are accurate.
     
  5. Afflicted

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    I have and they weren't that's how I got to where I am today. Not sure if my strings are stretching or something??? I did just get a new string a few months but sited it in twice sense then.
     
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    All I use is HHA Sights and have never experienced this problem. I have had a bow with string stretch and had to re-sight but it always worked out for me. I only sight in at 20 and 60. Call HHA and speak with Chris. They have great customer service.
     
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  7. Afflicted

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    Yeah, I've talked with them and sent them an email.

    Ok, so your saying that once you set you 20 and 60 that your 30 & 40 are dead nutz as well?
     
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    Yes the 20-60 method is very accurate. If not use a custom site tape program


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    I was having these issues as well, my tape now consist of a white arrow wrap with penned in yardage markers
     
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    dmen Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I sight in at 20 & 40 and my tape has always been good out to 50 yards. That is as far as I can shoot at my house.
     
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    What I'm guessing is happening... is when say your 20 is on, but your 30 doesn't line up with your mark, but your 40 is on.... It should be mathematically impossible for you 20 - 60 to be perfect but not the numbers in between.

    Shoot your 20, and then your furthest accurate yardage, 50 would be great, and shoot the same way every distance, I've noticed I used to fire a longer shot a little differently than a close shot, you have to overcome that. Then when you get your 20 and your 50 hitting perfectly trust the inbetween, and shoot it, don't worry about it lining up with your custom marks, it's likely user error...

    Does any of that rambling make any sense... lol?
     
  12. Afflicted

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    Yeah. I follow you but that's just it. If my 20 and 50 are on my 30 and 40 are off. Not by a lot but if I was 3D shooting they'd be a joke.
    Guess I just need to make custom tapes for my set up.

    Ps. For hunting they are still kill shots but I like to be dead on.
     
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    Makes me wonder if you are doing something a little different with your anchor at different distances...
    I know for me, sometimes I would be hitting and happy one day, then the next, not so much... that was a consistent form issue for me. And I know what you mean about good enough for hunting, I can't do that, I have to have good enough for 3D. I have a friend who absolutely swears by pencil marks... how better could you get to know your bow than actually doing it yourself?
     
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    And from experience that I have with a HHA, if you don't have a .010 pin... the thing starbursts so bad, at 50 and 60 how can you have a consistant aiming point. Wearing glasses intensifies this effect also... When the pin is the size of the target, it can get very frustrating. Just my issues with HHA, although I doubt I would shoot a different sight, I do want to find a .010 housing.
     
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    Your issue might be peep location.

    With a movable sight, you need to set the peep for the average yardage you are going to shoot with it. This will make it more comfortable and natural throughout the whole sight range.

    Usually the close yardages will not show they are off like the long will so the close yardage setting could be the issue as well.(20 could be 22)

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    If your not consistent at 60 then you cant use 60.

    Make pencil marks at your comfortable distances and find the marks that match.




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    You didnt by chance put a lighted nock on did you? This will add weight to the rear of the arrow and your distance trajectory will be a bit different.
     
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    Yeah you need to be very precise with the 20 and have to have a very small aim point. Otherwise the 20 being off will lead to the wrong tape


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    Also they have a conversion table you can us if you can't sight in at 60. If you are not very good at 60 you can sight in at 20 & 40. HHA has a chart you can use to figure out the proper tape number to use. I was have issues with sighting in at 60 so I used the 20 and 40 method and I had great results with it.
     
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    Somedays i do shoot different also so I always keep a piece of paper with me and write down what number I'm using and most consistent at. After a month or so of doing this Ill put on a new tape accordingly.

    And yes. I have the 0.19 pin on mine and it's much better. 0.010 would be great.
     

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