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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Vabowman, Aug 24, 2020.

  1. dnoodles

    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    basically, you are asking for a benevolent dictatorship. There is literally nothing constitutional in what you hope for in a zero sum version of what you suggest.

    Even IF Trump were to attempt a coercive version of this (withholding certain federal funds, etc) the executive order would be immediately halted by a national federal court injunction issued by some un-elected black-robed Obama judicial appointee.
     
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  2. Sota

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    So watching the video this morning of the man that the group of rioters thought they could piss pound had a gun and used it, good for him. I thought it was a bad idea to have individuals go to the riots armed to prevent property damage. If liberal mayors and governors will not stop it armed citizens will, this is how the revolution is going to start.
     
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    No, just asking for a leader.
     
  4. dnoodles

    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    telling and then forcing semi-autonomous sovereign states what to do is not leadership, it's dictatorship.
    Talk about disenfranchising.

    those states (mine and yours included) get the government they voted for and therefore deserve.
     
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    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    There is a difference between a leader and a dictator, I am asking for Trump to lead, big difference
     
  6. Vabowman

    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    What would like to see him do again?
     
  7. Vabowman

    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    2 shot dead in Kenosha last night during protest.... not by police.. animals
     
  8. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

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    I am not an a-hole I am disenfranchised.
     
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    dnoodles Legendary Woodsman

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    his answer is always more centralized federal power and authority with no specific mandate.
    What could go wrong?
     
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    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    He's pretty much-done nothing since the second press conference which was his best. He came out for that one he had a plan, I had confidence after that one we would get this under control and move forward.

    From the second one on it's been more chaotic than a plan. We don't have a national strategy besides wait for a vaccine from what I can tell.

    He has a team of experts, work with them, and not against them.
    Don't support a witch doctor or every conspiracy theory that comes out, that's dnoodles job
    He put a tweet out about mask and being a patriot and nothing else. Make a choice on where you stand
    Stop tweeting
     
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    Stop understanding how gov. works it confuses some....
     
  12. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    No my answer is being a leader, not shocked you have no idea what that entails
     
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    Meh.

    Good shoot.
     
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    READ THE CONSTITUTION ! Especially the part of separation of powers---federal rights---state rights THE ANSWER IS IN THERE !
     
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    Trolls only chose the truth they want.
     
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    Ol' Boob woke up in the wrong Dimension....

    We sit here today with Riots that Democrat run states and cities will do nothing to disparage or end and continue to prevent Trump from helping even after he continues to offer over and over and over.

    3 trillion in debt during aPandemic that has shut down the world like no perso living or dead has seen before. What was the solution? Let oir country and the world crash to the levels that socialism was the only option? First you balked, as well as the opposition, at Trumps initial request for a couple Billion. Lets pull out all the Democrat sneaknins and see what the figure could have been just for economy and Covid relief.

    11% unemployment, WTF do you expect when state governments shut down so much of the workforce? What percentage of that 11% is unrelated to Covid and a direct result of Trump? Likely the 3% it was before China unleashed the beast right? That 3% was praised by all pre Commuvirus taking its grip on the world. Now lets look at the fact that a lot of the Democrat run cities who allowed businesses to start reopening are now shuttered or piles of rubble and ash, probably localized spikes in unemployment forthcoming as a result of that, can't believe Trump asked cities to burn.

    32% GDP drop, see above Jughead

    Pretty sure everyone is saying this is not good, but only.one side is preventing anything from moving forward before the election.

    Generally when we have an election, people accept the results and try to regroup in hopes of winning the next. Generally in a crisis people get behind and support their President even if they do not agree with him, not fight his every move just because it was him and his administration that suggested it. They do not waste billions of dollars in unsubstantiated claims seeking to find anything they can, anything whatsoever, to remove him from office.

    Doesn't matter what his plan is, you and no one else would support it that did not support him in 2016.

    The only thing your drivel lacked was the term "Lemming".
     
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  18. Vabowman

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    Germ, I don't think he could do much of anything besides curing it himself. Same thing happened with Katrina..Bush got blamed. I suppose he could have driven air force one into the storm to try and turn it? Again, how was/is he supposed to stop the spread and keep the country afloat economically? He went to a shut down, you wouldn't have your soccer. We either take this on the chin and go through it until we have a vaccine or we shut down and crumble and become a 3rd world country.. those are the options.
     
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    You see the video of the shooting at Kenosha? Guy is getting pavement stomped and hit with a skateboard, and defends himself by shooting with his AR.
     
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  20. Vabowman

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    I didn't see it
     

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