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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Vabowman, Aug 24, 2020.

  1. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

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    Germ I honestly not sure I believe you. That said, who gives a ****e on that,really. I hope you have made a decision that fits your feelings and sensabilities.
     
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    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    This is why this forum is the best. No matter if we have different political feelings, most of us are smart enough to really not give a ****e if someone thinks differently than another. Can debate about ideologies all day every day... And if there isn’t a disagreement, it doesn’t matter. We’re just debating.

    I know that a lot of you guys don’t like that I disagree with your thoughts and I know that I’m a devils advocate a lot of the time, but at the same time I think (and hope) that you don’t look/feel differently about me as a person because of my posts.


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  3. Fix

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    It's the sign of adulthood. If you really think you can argue your way into changing someone else's core beliefs you are still a child.
     
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    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    Germ, welcome friend. When people start to understand that middle America, black and white have more in common than what we think, we will move forward and this country will be healed. Stop listening to the BS radical ideas on both sides. Be a decent human being. And as Jesus said...Love thy neighbor... We all have differences, that is true. What you guys and gals do up north is very different from what we do here in Dixie.. But I can tell you this, we are a lot of like in so many ways...at least the ones on this site are. so here is to you Germ!
     
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    Vabowman Grizzled Veteran

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    MNHunter, I think in time, the older you get, the more you will understand. Im not sure if you have children. But if and when you do, the older they get, the wiser you get. the less tolerant you will become of nonsense and BS. Every paycheck becomes more and more important as you approach retirement. Giving your money to the government to appease certain elements of our society that don't pull their weight will eat at you. Take a guy like Sota or Fix..they have worked hard like many of us have, they have seen lots of things wrong in this country just like me. You get to a point where your pride, your work, your passions and your principles are what define you. And at the end of the day, they sleep well knowing they pulled their weight...
     
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    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    Maybe too much info for this post but I’m throwing it out there. I’m 32 and have been dating my girlfriend for 8 years. We don’t plan to have kids. I’m a first generation college graduate in my family. My parents and my girlfriends parents are/were100% Republicans.

    My dad passed away 8 years ago and he was a 100% true blood republican (I lived with him my entire life until he passed). But he never, ever pushed any political views on me. That’s why I am the way I am today. He told us to believe what we thought is right (he was not a slave to the MSM). I personally don’t think any politics are right. So I question and argue all of it.

    I’m a devils advocate when it comes to politics. I absolutely hate it. It seems to me that politics exist just to separate us.

    Just know - I might not agree with everyone’s views, but you’re a part of Bowhunting.com so you’re a friend of mine.


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  7. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

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    Geez your younger than my youngest...here comes my Sunday God I'm old pity party....lol
     
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    me, putting down the Templetons...

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  9. Vabowman

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    Well I believe you have a good head on your shoulders. I believe you have a good soul and you do the right thing in life..with that said, you will have to take a side, I promise you that. I think we are in for a very turbulent time. I do believe with everything in me this is a battle of good and evil. Read Revelations, it paints a picture. I am a Christian. Im not a nut job, but I do believe we are going to see the rapture in this lifetime.
     
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    As Germ has pointed out...it's about control.

    Judge a man by his enemies. The united front against Trump and all the things that have made America the greatest nation state the world has ever seen is pure evil. Ruthless, complete and total drive and lust for power and control.

    Trump wants to leave us alone to grow and prosper. That's about all I can ask my government to do and ever wanted. Leave me alone and keep foreign bad guys out. Charge me just enough in taxes to make that feasible. When a local problem is too big for our local governments are unable to handle an emergency, step in and stomp on the problem. Then make sure we have a working infrastructure, and walk away and let us figure out how best to rebuild our communities.

    Germ, are there any class actions pending against Witmer re her executive orders? Please PM me links if so.
     
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    Last evening a Pro-Trump individual was shot by a Antifa supporter (since ID'd) in Portland, also people were on over passes throwing objects at/onto the Pro-Trump Flag waving vehicles that passed by ...and just now in Califas, during a Pro-Trump Parade/Caravan, a BLMer/Antifa type opened fire on the caravan, 3 persons are barricaded in an apartment, SWAT is now on the scene .... whats next, shoot torpedoes at the Trump supporters during one of the Pro-Trump flotilla parades ...

    this is now what the violence led by the dem/BLM/Antifa types have delved into ... smh ...

    https://noqreport.com/2020/08/30/br...entura-blvd-in-woodland-hills-hit-by-gunfire/
     
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    Until Kyle Rittenhouse the left had no justification for what is taking place in America. Now they use him as their scapegoat for what is transpiring in Democrat ruled localities. Trump did not defend the shootings or death that occurred that gives these rioters/looters the reason for their persistence. He said from the get go with George Floyd that he did not like it, and it looked very bad. That was before medical examiners and toxicology reports, and to my knowledge he has not changed his position. Some he has not commented on, how can you when video clearly shows non compliance?

    Now they also want to include what happened in Portland last night, but IMO what happened in Portland should have happened 80 plus days ago if it were to happen at all. Portland has been out of control for over 3 months and they blame Trump and say it is his America. Trump has offered help by sending in Fed agents and the National Guard to which they denied the offer, repeatedly. They own it, and "they" means Governors and Mayors alike, as long as those that are only out there to disrupt and incite.

    Those that did accept Trumps offers seen things calm down within a matter of 24-48 hours.

    Trump has no control over that which needs local approval to assist in getting things under control.

    I'd love to see Trump STFU on some things as well, but that does not mean that these mayors and governors are right in their handling of it.

    Today when Portland held their briefing and took questions, I wish a reporter in attendance had the balls to flat out ask the Police Chief if he felt his hands were being tied or if he felt they had enough manpower to control the situations as they arise. Flat out ask if he felt the Mayor had limited their powers so much they cannot get things in control.

    He did state they did not have enough men to be everywhere at once, but did not state if that was as a direct result of the Mayors directions
     
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    Understand something folks. The left wing has, is and always will use the black race to get what they want. That is power. and when the black race is no longer the largest minority group, they will drop them and court the hispanics...they have already begun...why you think they don't a wall, voter ID, they want sanctuary cities, etc..they want that vote. They know that when they can keep people dependent on government, then they have power..Hilter did it in the late 1930s to reign in Germany. Starve them, then feed them, then own them. There is a movwement now heading by a very strong group of blacks called "Off the Plantation" and they ain't talking about the slave owning kind from the old south,,,they call it, the Democrat Plantation. now that's "woke" Just let this thing play out guys...the left and their joint force with BLM will lose this election on their own
     
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    If Germ can see the light/'Walkaway' ... anyone can ... Germ, welcome to the side of righteousness ....
     
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    You have to realize he has been saying he will vote for Trump since March, hence the reason for a few of my posts to him stating "I'll give you an out". A lot of it had to do with his "ability to get things done behind the scenes" and keep the markets up.

    What he states is the reason he's voting for Trump now, is not the reason he stated before so. He may be that much against Biden that it does not matter, but my feeling is he has made a lot of money off from Trump and knows when to cash in. Nothing wrong with that either, wish I knew when to shift savings to take advantage
     
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    This is going to get real bad guys because they have to scare the right into not voting in person. They are now desperate and the Dems have lost control of them.
     
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    I do not and will not pick “a side”. I promise you that. If I don’t agree with a specific party, I don’t have to vote for them. That’s the beauty of America.

    I’m a Christian who never went to church and I’m not a nut job.

    We all come from different ways of life. And that’s a great thing.

    I don’t believe we see the rapture during our time here on this earth.


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    Untrue, unless you choose not to vote
     
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    To each his own. But remember..."He will return like a thief in the night, a twinkle of the eye"....Either way, I am prepared... Choosing a side doesn't mean you are in line with every detail of a party. But you have to stand for something if you vote. you can't vote for both candidates. As I said before, you are young. You don't have children so I can understand why your thought process is different. That's ok. This is America.
     

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