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  1. Germ

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    I would buy a Luka jersey with "***** ass whiteboy" on it, especially after he buried the 3 to beat'em.:)

    On a serious note that's what Kenny Smith talked about, we all have to change the way we speak to each other. There was an apology and Luka at 21 showed how to be an adult, he's becoming one of my favorite players and his mom is smoking hot:)
     
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    If the shoe was on the other foot there would have not been an apology. Luka would have been suspended and his sponsors would have dropped him.
     
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    Yeh but Kenny also walked off the set to protest the shooting of Blake. One that is justified. Shows where his mind is if you ask me. Point is, he'd be walking around, albeit, in a jail cell right now, but he'd be walking. Instead, he's now waiting on a massive lawsuit against the city and will likely have all charges dropped.. He wins. wheelchair or not. Im not going to feel sorry for him. I do feel sorry for his kids. They have a father that likes to beat up women and sexually assault them too...where are the feminist? crickets......
     
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    Wife and I were speaking last night and she said it about right...people feel so wronged that it has built up to the level where they dont care about facts. They are pissed. Kind of like the OJ simpson murders. People were happy he got off to F the system that to them represented years and years of oppression. Even if two people were murdered and they knew OJ was guilty. A desperate and unyielding mainframe leads to a lot of violence, and this case, riots and more.
     
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    I am not saying life is fair, but can't we at least agree and show our kids as I did my son. The way Luka handled it is how an adult handles situations. He did not overreact, he did not pout it cry. he just kept playing and then letter accepted an apology and beat them:)

    If we can't move on from when someone apologizes and it's accepted by the person, there is little hope I guess.
     
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    Kenny walked out without all the facts and now looks foolish on that move, also stating it's a legal shoot by either of them, I am not going to state legal or illegal until all the facts come out. Too many times we have had it wrong in the past with only seeing a snippet of what happened.
     
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    You are proving my point Germ. Luka was mature and he didn't throw a fit. However, shoe on the other, there would have been outrage from the get go..
     
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    Again, my point is proven by your own words. 99% of these shootings/killings are justified. The media, and the BLM movement does not wait for the facts. Kenny is a fool. But they are still protesting his death even after the fact. Im smart enough to figure out that in this climate, cops are on alert about their actions more so now and for that cop to fire his gun, he knew there was a threat. They found a knife on the floor board!!! exactly where he was reaching when he was shot..case closed.. there is no other argument.
     
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    I am afraid we passed the moving on place once the fires were lit.

    Millions in damage done due to Floyd's assisted heart attack from fentenal..

    Now another he said she said knee jerk and three more dead!

    Yep I am sorry when its all just words is fine... But people are getting killed! Good and BAD people!

    This crap needs to come to a end or we all are gonna find Covid is the least of our worries~!
     
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    furthermore, I know a lot of cops...I don't know of one that wants to use their firearm in any situation. They'd rather make a peaceful arrest and go home to their families... I just can't wrap my head around this....why do people think it's ok to do what Blake did? Why are we putting the burden on the police..? They didn't come to the scene by chance...they were called.. they did what cops do,,, they detain and try to get facts.. He had a warrant. Their job is to arrest. He's the A hole that resisted and presented a threat. Guess what? you get shot when you present a threat...period
     
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    I think there is a civil war on the horizon. History does repeat. Unfortunately.
     
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    All we can do now is pick a side.
     
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    That's the whole thing. Even after facts come out showing justifiable shootings what do they say? "Who cares", then they continue to keep doing what they're doing under the same false narrative that was their sole issue. It's a no win situation, they really don't know what they want or why exactly they are out there.

    Take the Floyd situation. When it happened, everyone was in agreement the officers actions were wrong. Everyone. Early on we were lead to believe that his death was direct resupt to juggular pressure cutting off the blood supply due to pressure from the kneeling officers knee on his neck. Agencies across the nation started barring chokes and restraints if they had not already done so after Gray.

    The riots didn't stop. They arrested and charged the officer with murder in the first degree. That wasn't enough either, there wasn't justice yet, so no peace. When he's convicted they'll think about it, but until then no peace.

    Now the fentanyl levels is out and the results are not going to be good.

    They will not get a conviction on first degree homicide, even without the fentanyl evidence, it's not going to happen as there is no way you can say that officer started his day intent to kill George Floyd.

    Negligent homicide is and should be the charge he is facing. I think most everyone can agree the officer was excessive and negligent in his handling of it after Floyd was restrained in cuffs.

    Prosecutions best way to get a conviction would be to show that even if George Floyd died from an overdose of fentanyl, had the officer not been kneeling on his neck he may have been able to see Floyd having complications related tonan overdose and been able to render treatment or even administer Narcan.

    Instead, you will have an over zealous DA who was pressured by the media and activists to seek 1st degree murder charges of which he will be acquitted of, I can almost guarantee that.

    What's going to happem then? No peace.

    I don't know the answers, not even going to pretend to, but when you give in to pressure just to apease a certain group of activists you're not truly seeking justice, you're caving and catering to the masses.

    Now, the Left's narrative is switching to a 17 year old with a rifle is the reason of the violence.

    3 straight months Portland has burned, for an action that occured 3 nights ago. That is some pretty impressive foresight.
     
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    This may answer the rubber glove debate as well

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    Gsr from that gun is going to blow all up over his arms and neck. Those gloves were not meant to stop his prints from anything. He made a mistake going to the scene of a violent riot with a gun he wasnt supposed to have. Maybe charge him with unlawful assembly with a weapon [felony in most states] and be done with it. Have him get on the Juicy Smoulette penatly train and drop the charges.
     
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    20200827_165316_resized.jpg this is only going to get worse ... the dems know they are in trouble with O'Biden/Harris .... the Dems is now the party of violence/hate/and destruction of our cities, they are now known as the Marxist Democrat party .... there are many fed up with the crap the BLM/Domestic Terrorists are dishing out ... this is now crunch time ... there is is distinct choice ... the Dems and Socialism/I hate America(O'Biden-Harris) or ... I stand for law and order/America is great/Kag (Keep America Great) .... I know which way I'll go !!
     
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    well this didn't go like cnn thought it would... I think even the parents see what happened and though they didn't and won't say it, they are likely looking more closely at the actions of their son.. and I can't speak for them, but any rational human can understand why the officers felt threatened..
     
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    Notice how Lemon was trying to lead her rather than interview her. THAT is CNN in a nutshell.

    Coined Narrative Network
     
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    and then we have men like this in blue that never get credit...God bless his soul!
     
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