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Help with Bow Tech Allegiance after cam module, cable and string change

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  1. papapitts

    papapitts Newb

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    Hey everyone I am new to the site for asking questions but always like reading over the threads. Got a Bowtech Allegiance 2006 problem. Just went to a Bowtech dealer to buy cams modules to change the draw length on a used bow I just bought. Bow shot great and worked properly but draw length too short. Ordered new strings and cables online at shooters edge. Took them and bow to Fanning Outpost bow dealer in Missouri. The bow had EFA3 cam modules on it. Bought new ESM2 cam modules and paid to have them and the cables/string installed. After installing everything the cams did not line up on the 6 dot above the limb as stated on the Bowtech link. It had seven marks above the limb on both top and bottom cams. The guy from the shop said he didn't know what to do to resolve the problem. Called the string manufacturer and he said it is a setup problem and the bow dealer should be able to set the bow up properly. I emailed Bowtech but no response yet. Any help would be appreciated...thanks.
     
  2. brucelanthier

    brucelanthier Grizzled Veteran

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    Before installing new strings and cables someone should have measured them to make sure they were the lengths called for in the specs. Did anyone do that? If someone did that and they are the correct length then the cables and possibly string need to be twisted/untwisted incrementally until the cams are in the proper position. It is very important that you start with cables and string at the correct length though.

    If no one measured them take the bow back to the shop and have them take them off and measure them. They should have done that and, at this point, even if they say they did, they should be willing to take them off and redo the whole process because they have done something wrong or the cams would be in the correct position. Prt of installing new string and cables is making sure the cams are synced and in the correct position.
     
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    What was the draw length when you bought the bow? and what are you changing it to? Not 100% sure, but that bow should have had some draw adjustment from factory.
     
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    Also might check if they gave you the correct modules.
     
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    Make sure the bow is setup for the appropriate draw length, the right letoff, and make sure the cams are synched. If your chosen dealer isn't using a draw board to set all this up with a scale on the draw board, find yourself another dealer. It's a bow setup problem, not a BowTech or String problem (assuming the string is the proper length and to spec).

    As an FYI......the dots really don't matter. They are simply a reference point. Once the bow is tuned for proper DL and letoff, note the dots position and monitor them to make sure things don't move in the future.
     
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    If the string builder built the strings to the proper lengths and you now have the proper draw mods that you need then you need to find a new shop because your current one has NO business working on a bow....I'm sorry, but if you have a shop or your a shop tech and you don't know how to time the cams on a bow then someone needs to take the keys to the shop from you and lock the doors. I'm sorry, I know that always ruffles some feathers but it's a Shop for a reason, for guys who cant work on their own stuff to take it there and get it fixed. That's like taking a car to a mechanic who doesn't know how to work on a car....It's stupid, DO NOT give them anymore money, everyone loves to preach "Support your local shop", no screw that if your local shop is a bunch of idiots then don't support them, let them go out of business. No one is gonna be worse for the wear if a bunch of morons are not around to screw stuff up for paying customers.
     
  7. muzzyman88

    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I've setup quite a few Allegiances and/or that style of cam. If the string and cable lengths are correct, then its a problem with setup. I almost always have to twist up strings and cables to get the bow to hit peak weight and or draw length for a given module. The dots are reference only. Once its in synch, you can play with the orientation of those dots on each cam to tweak valley and holding feel.

    If the bow is properly tuned via a draw board, those dots will NOT be exact. The reason being is that you are not pulling from the exact center of the string. One cam will will be slightly advanced of the other to allow both cams to hit the draw stop pegs at the same time.

    Anytime I setup a Binary bow, I don't pay attention to those dots other than to ensure they are not really out of whack. I'll twist up a cable or untwist to get them relatively close. Then I set the poundage to peak weight and check to ensure it hits the 70lbs (on a 70lb bow).

    After that, its off to the draw board to sync those cams and get the stops hitting at the same time. Finally, check the draw length to make sure its correct. If its short or long, twist or untwist cables and maybe the string a touch to get it all in sync. Then recheck poundage, etc.

    These bows were a tad finicky to get setup because you have several "moving" parts (strings/cables) that are all married together as one. Two cables and a string. Once you get the hang of it and understand what each is doing you can tune it up in no time.
     

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