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  1. ctrupp

    ctrupp Weekend Warrior

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    I have been having issues with my arrows and may be in the market for a new arrow. My idea is to get get either GT kinetics, or Easton axis. However, I would need to foot either arrow. I have never used a footer, and have no idea where to begin. What do you use as a footer? Where can I buy some footers? And anything else I need to know. Thanks for the help.
     
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    BigPhil_H Die Hard Bowhunter

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    What's a footer?
     
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    You have a couple of options. First you can make them. I made them for years with aluminum shafts that I cut down and then put a taper on them with a reloading tool that you cut brass. I then epoxy them on.
    Now I am buying footing. Why? First off someone is making them so it saves me the time, secondly they are made better then I could because they have a flange that holds it in place and protects the front of the shaft.
    The person to call is Ray at vantage point archery. Tell him the shaft your using and the size and he will hook you up. It's an excellent product.

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    Are you looking to increase FOC? If so there are a lot of after market inserts out there. GoldTip doesnt have any for the kinetics but they do have weights you can screw in behind the insert if you need to. For the kinetic you can add then in 20 or 10 grain increments. Hope that helps.
     
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    It is the opposite of a header.
     
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    While a footer does increase FOC that is only a by product of the intended purpose. Footers are used for two reasons, first to protect the front of the shaft, for example with a HIT. And secondly it protects the shaft and insert for lateral force by adding integrity to it, counter acts the leverage that maybe applied from the broadhead in some situations.
     
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    Isn't they same thing achieved by using a heavier weight forward arrow?
     
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    No. If you wanted to increase FOC there are better ways to accomplish that then a footing. Most footings will way less than 15 grains. Heavy inserts, heavier broadheads, a lighter shaft....all will get your FOC higher faster then a footing. Footings main and only practical use is to protect the integrity of the front of the shaft.
     
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    I guess I would switch arrows if I had a problem with them breaking at the front of the shaft. Perhaps I am just under thinking it.
     
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    It's more a product of the insert type vs the shaft. Also footings aren't just for weak shafts they are for any shaft....the first rule and the only rule for big game is that the arrow and the broadhead MUST stay fully intact and moving forward. Footings help accomplish that by adding insurance.
     
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    Thanks for sharing. Never heard of a footer before today. What you explained makes sense but I still don't understand the why unless you are hunting really big game like a buff or something.
     

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