If you wanted to make me go off the deep end and be a real threat to society, all it would have taken would have been to draft me. I think that may be the worst suggestion I've seen in the thread yet.
So what are you afraid of? Want to do all the taking and no giving back? Sounds like your right on the edge of self destruct already. Your already a threat to society, you just don't know it yet. Or simply a coward and can't stand to show respect, or have some discipline over you? You tell me.
Chief when I turned 18 was when they redid the registration, no draft but you had to register. There was an uproar about it but I got up the morning I turned 18 and went to the post office then went and graduated from High School that evening. I did not have a problem with registering that being said I would have been pissed in hind site if the Gov't told me I was not going to have the experience of my first 2-3 years of college. I will also say there would be a revolution in this country if they tried to reinstitute the draft or made service mandatory, sad sate of affairs but I do kinda get it. I would not want my son sent off to a war on the other side of the globe.
I see where your coming from Sota. As far as Missing 2-3 years of college, you would still be able to attain that. Just would not be on the campus of your choice but administered by colleges. 90% have classes that can be taken on line now so not much change. What about the experience of not being in the military? Strong friendship are developed there. One also learns how to help out someone who is having a tough time of it. That works both ways. Revolution? I doubt it as those that want to revolt (different than demonstrate) would be on the first bus out. No one would want to see their son or daughter sent off to war anywhere. But the chances of that happening would be greatly reduced by the large number to pick from. Those that can't keep their nose clean would be the first. At least after 3 years the vast majority would have a lot different attitude not to mention a couple years of free college education. The boot camp in Arizona worked for several years till some liberal judges got involved.
But you are talking about making every one do military service just because some people are whack jobs, or act up, or what ever. Why should someone that does great in school, 4.0, free ride to college, gonna maybe have a great life, have to pay for the mistakes of some loser that wanted to be a jack ass instead of making something of him self. Mandatory service for everyone definitely is not the answer to the issues we face as a society. I don’t know what is, but no way in hell would I, or probably a lot of other people ever support that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I like the general theory but not exactly that version... I believe it would be best if full citizenship (esp national voting rights) only came through designated public service branches...military, AmeriCorps, American Red Cross, etc. Like if you don't serve in some capacity, you could still vote in state and local elections but if you're going to vote for people who affect national policy (thereby all of us) all then you have to serve us all at some point. I dunno...if I were King for a week I guess.
Military is not for everyone. I would adjust you idea to just be mandatory civil service of some type. It could be going around cleaning up after disasters or something else other than just military.
So your saying you don't want anyone over 70 to be able to vote? Or a single mother with a minor child and gets a full refund should not be able to vote? Boy you have lost it.
Note the smiley face on my post If you are an american citizen, you get to vote if you choose, period, no smiley face.
Yeah, coward...that's probably it. smdh I just don't believe that anyone has a right to force good law abiding citizens to risk their life in service in time of peace or to serve society or else. To me, that's the pinnacle of authoritarian rule. You're telling us that you would have us go from a free society to a full on socialistic society and you expect me to not get angry over that assertion? You sir are out of your freakin mind, Hitler would be proud as punch of you. I have had family fight and some die, in every US war...they fought against BS like that for a country that believed measures like that were only necessary under the worst of threats. I'm as much a threat to society as our founding fathers were against oppression and rule like you suggest. There's a difference between being a rabid dog and being a dog that'll kick your ass when cornered to be given a beating or killed. It was hard assed country boys like me that won the last WW and it's always been that way. A government that asks me for my courage is one that I'll gladly fight for but one that insists upon it is one I'll tell to go to hell. Discipline...indeed. You've got a GD twisted definition of discipline. Taking and not giving back? I pay my taxes like a good little slave to the state, I abide by every law I know about, I support my local community and the nations economy by working my butt off and pumping millions of pounds of grain and hundreds of thousands of dollars into it. I help feed the nation and the world, yet you're telling me I should be expected to do more, not expected but forced..and you expect me to happily agree with that and call me a coward because I don't?! Holy ****... Sota, like you, I registered the day I turned 18. Still yet, even though I'm an only son, run the family business and take care of my elderly parents, if some tragedy befell the nation and I was called upon, I would defend this nation with my last breath. However I refuse to be forced to serve a government or anyone else against my will.
Wait a minute, 1 person can kill over 100 with out a semi-auto? Do we ban needles or medicine? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/prosecutors-german-nurse-killed-100-patients-article-1.3621273
Hard to swallow the fact that some generational ward of the state's vote counts same as mine...or in Cook County 3-4x what mine counts.
CoveyMaster, you missed the whole point and added your version of what you thought your read. But that's OK. I expected as much. I believe the original post was a teacher wanting to know how to answer 12-13 yo children when they ask " Do we need an AR15 that holds 50+ round of ammunition?" The answer is simply no, we don't NEED them. Just like those kids don't NEED their video games, TV, cell phones, bicycles, etc, etc. Those things are toys for the kids. The AR15 is a toy for responsible adults. If another kid take one of their bicycles and runs over the pet cat, the bicycle becomes a weapon. Do we want to take all the bicycles away from all the kids? NO we don't and won't. We punish the boy that took the bike and ran over the cat. Same goes when one person uses an AR15 to kill or injury others. Do we take all the AR15's away from everyone? The AR15 is nothing more than an adult toy that can be used as a weapon in the wrong hands.
