Couple months back I had a local CL sale finalized via text. I was the seller; sale price agreed at $700. He asked for my address and he'd be at my house in a half hour- I told the guy nothing personal; but for safety for all involved to meet me at the local PD parking lot to complete the deal (the local PDs around here encourage that.) He never replied and phone# disconnected the next day. So he was either wanted and/or intended to rob me.
Do we all agree in this case, this guy should have not been able to buy a gun, any gun legally? If we agree then we have to have folks look back the the process and help fix what is broke, because the current system is broke if we allow people like this guy buy any gun.
44 cases out of 48,000? Hmmmmm. Background was run with nothing in the database and he lied on the application.
I 100% agree this guy should not have been able to legally be even near a weapon... I’d go so far as to say I expect to see some lawsuits against the USAF in regards to that negligence... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
From all I have read, yes he should not have been able to purchase, assuming what has been reported about his legal history is correct. I have doubt they will ever know exactly how he fell through the cracks. They can probably go back and find which person was supposed to "report" his information, but at this point I doubt that person will remember one specific file from that many years ago. It is very possible that the person in the Air Force did submit the information only for it not to get into the system. I don't know what their process and how automated or electronic it was then and how that compares today.
There will probably be suits filed and the USAF/Government will just settle. It would be really hard to prove negligence at this point.
Legally buy, yes. But he would have probably bought one illegally anyway. In fact he did by lying on his forms. But if not that, then by buying used. Or stolen. Or gifted. BTW, regarding the CL sidebar conversation? Yeah, this just happened about 10 minutes from my house...New Lenox is Smalltown USA. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...arjacking-after-online-ad-20171108-story.html Stay frosty...
It will soon be the responsibility of every law abiding,voting american to carry and be proficient with a handgun to defend the public in the event of an attack on the public.
According to a FoxNews story, a retired AF OSI officer was saying that due to lack of stable manpower, admin overload, etc there are countless files that basically just go into a black hole. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/0...s-criminal-history-may-be-systemic-issue.html It's very possible this maniac's file was sitting in a cabinet somewhere, unprocessed.
It already is. Most just don't choose to accept that responsibility; and many of those are quick to criticize those who do. They'd rather the gubment do it, and everything else for them. Strange human tendency to shirk personal responsibility but criticize the manner in which those who do shoulder the task choose to do so. I'm guessing it has something to do with guilt and self-loathing.
No to be honest I don't carry on my person, I am not against it but I tend to not be in a place where I would need a gun. I will still try to avoid high density population areas but I will have to start to carry. I travel a lot so I would probably feel vulnerable when I do not have a handgun with me after getting used to having one on me.
I've ran off too many trespassers that I'd probably have shot, I know better than to carry a side arm. Glad some people can shoulder the responsibility and I support their ability to do so but I think the public in general is better off with me unarmed, lol.
Another angle of the "do something" thought: How many of you remember the mandatory draft? There were a few ways out but not many. The easiest was the National Guard. Then we went to the all voluntary military. BUT there are a lot of qualification that have to be met to get in. And if one mess up they are put out into society, and usually things go down hill from there. What happens if we go back to the mandatory draft where EVERYONE physically able must serve a minimum of 3 years active duty. Drop out of school and your gone. If they want a college education, they can get it while serving just like they do now. If they screw up, they are delt with but are NOT kicked out into society. Serious screw ups go to the brig and that time is not counted towards their 3 year obligation. They learn and practice respect, discipline, a trade among a few. Would this be expensive? Darn right it would. How much are we spending now dealing with these rejects and at the cost of how many lives? How many more times do we deal with them as most are repeat offenders. Would it work for all, probably not but would sure take a big chunk out of that area of the population. I believe this would be a big help towards the "do something" that a lot of armchair legislature's are talking about. I spent 4 years in the military and it darn sure didn't hurt me one bit.
