Not as easy as it may seem. Some things like a Dishonorable Discharge might be black and white, the rest probably not, somebody can get a BCD for being AWOL, probably not something we would want to take away their right to defend themselves. We also have no idea if this is that big of an issue in the first place. If we are looking at thousands of mistakes or a handful. Without knowing the current process impossible to say.
I am talking about just approving the process, that's it. If we look at what went wrong here, it was a process. This is how we solve problems in tech world, it's how the FAA has done it with plane crashes. Look at what went wrong and put steps in to migrated that from happening. We can't even do that, and won't which is why we are dumb as a nation collectively. Pick a side, left, right, liberal, conservative all dumb.
Most of those things listed are already supposed to happen. Don’t know about the mood altering drug point. I don’t know what the system is on reporting these things though, I don’t know if it is simple or if there is a process like most things. As for the Christian thing, I’m not one. But I believe in right and wrong just like anyone, and I believe in thinking for my self. I don’t degrade or look down on anyone for their beliefs. Bottom line is there’s not a whole hell of a lot we can do other than try and put people that make the decisions in place to do so through voting. Other than that protect your self and you family or others within the confines of the law... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Here's just do what we do best, Sending prayers and thoughts, now back to doing nothing, it's what we do best.
Its like saying we need to do something. Without being able to say what that something is. Other than his offenses not being reported neither you nor myself have the information to say what should or shouldn't be done. I don't think you know what or how much the current process, I know I don't. It is easy to say, just automate it. Well it is very possible that it is already automated and it was the automation that was the reason for the mistake in the first place. Instead of making quick reactionary changes, lets actually find out why the process fell short. Was it human error, was it over automation. I don't think you will find one person who does not want to make changes if the changes can really make a difference. Its all the reactionary responses that are not Common Sense.
I'm using the same tone and similar wording Germ used for a previous poster in this same thread. If he can dish it out to others, let him take his own medicine, Mr. Lofton.
I am fine with mentally ill people not being able to buy or possess firearms, but what is mentally ill? Around 42 million Americans are on anti depressants alone. Are they receiving treatment for a mental illness? (Slippery Slope) Where do you draw the line with mental illness?
Are we going to keep our cool and use our heads in any decision or knee jerk? Anyone who votes for an emotion-driven, knee jerk reaction deserves to have their ideas assessed, sir.
I can't wait for the Singularity, when we all become perfect. Oh, wait... Humans are imperfect; so not really. Somebody in that OSI office dropped the ball. The procedure to submit convictions to the DOJ is about as simplified/streamlined as it could be. Not every agency uses the exact same databases, but in most if not all cases it would literally be a drop down menu in their system. Even if (and I don't know this to be the case) Air Force OSI is not up to speed technologically as most Fed agencies; then it would really be just a fax/email to the Feebs NICS intake section. The investigating agency is required to submit a felony/domestic assault conviction to the DOJ. Fed agencies get statistical "credit" for arrests, convictions, etc. It helps w/ their funding, so they have incentive (plus moral, administrative, and in many cases statutory requirement) to make sure convictions get properly recorded and submitted to DOJ. I know nobody wants to hear this, but the proper NICS submission of this maniac's conviction literally in all likelihood just slipped through the administrative cracks. Human error.
On second thought, I suppose it would be possible to write and mandate a program where upon reporting to to any felony-level incarceration facility; a barcode is tattooed on the subject (preferably their forehead) and then automatically scanned into a cross-agency database (to include NICS.) That could work. Eliminate a lot of the human error aspect. See Germ, we can work together to find "common sense" solutions.
That was the biggest problem with the Obama restrictions on gun ownership/mental health. Many of those affected were not incapable of right/wrong/moral judgement. Just incapable of managing their personal/financial lives. I read one guy was just legally blind and physically handicapped, and was receiving SS benefits and a government funded caretaker to enable his daily life. Otherwise he was 100% mentally healthy. Because he was 100% disabled and dependent on welfare for subsistence, he had to live in a crappy/high crime area. How do you say that that guy is not permitted to own/use a gun for self/home defense? Very slippery slope.
Nah, not really. He is not attacking any one singlehandedly, he is just saying as a group of people collectively, we are stupid...he has a differing opinion than you, doesn’t mean he is a walking pile of crap man... I agree with some of the things he is saying, others not so much. We can have differing opinions without degrading someone like that... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
FYI Sunday I sold my fil truck via Craig’s list, the buyer and I met at the car wash because of rain. I stepped out with my 45 strapped to my side, he stepped out with his 38 strapped to his, we had a good laugh and made a great deal. Then his armed buddy came out of another car and I called mine out, lol. I am all for citizens owning fire arms to protect them selves and do so myself.
Lol, I don't carry and never have. I don't trust myself and my hot temper. If I have a problem, I'll handle it like a man or get my butt whipped or die trying. If someone pulls a gun on me they'd better damn well have every intention of using it and be proficient with it or I'll take it away from them and feed it to them and I may not pay particular attention to which of their orifices it goes in to be consumed.
