Well, I'm on my fourth year - so getting closer, I hope, lol. It's just frustrating when him and I put in the same time and he gets something every. single. year. But, it'll happen eventually. I still enjoy it. Getting hit with this hurricane rain today. Wind gusts up to 75MPH. It's pretty nasty out. So if it dies down - I'll be out tomorrow evening. Good luck to your daughter, MA, if you guys get out! Thanks to you both for the encouraging words.