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He just layed down the groundworks

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  1. Backcountry

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    My sentiments, exactly.

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  2. Muzzy Man

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    Let me get this straight. We are going to solve what's wrong by having "more" government control? Hmmm:confused:

    How's that been working out thus far?
     
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    How about more Local control?
     
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    I wouldn't call it control as much as I would call it assertion.

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    By the way of you didn't see it on the news in your area.
    My daughters school district canceled a dance Friday because some dumb *** thought making a threat of bringing a gun would be funny.

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  6. Muzzy Man

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    Yes beginning with the abolishment of "The Department of Education?" I love and respect teachers (well most of them) and for one think we can do better than leaving the success of their classrooms to the political wranglings that come from Washington bureaucrats. I don't know all the answers... but I would certainly be willing to work with local parents to make sure our kids our safe, that great teachers are rewarded and that the shmucks are tossed out on their diplomasses...
     
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    Well I like your post and that's probably the best explanation I've read from someone here as to why schools are different. I guess the pessimist inside me just believes if someone wants to kill people they will. From what I gather I should be thankful as it seems both of my kids schools have far more security than most but I'm at these places everyday and see how vulnerable they still are. But I imagine it makes many other parents feel safer, nothing wrong with that.
     
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    I just wish those among us who hate and fear guns, would use the freedoms that our guns guarantee us, would use the same freedoms given them by men defending those rights with guns, to move some where that they feel safe, and will have no fear of gun violence ever affecting their lives and in turn not infringing on those same rights given me to protect my home and family as I see fit.
     
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    There are many politicians that are going to use this terrible tragedy to try and further their own goals for gun control. To blame the gun is a easy solution. I own guns and do believe that there should be stricter and more controlled back ground checks. Banning a certain type of gun I don't believe is the solution.
    There is something a lot deeper at issue here. Any drug or medication that can effect peoples mind like SSRI's are far more dangerous. CIP: Columbine.
    This cowardly act was clearly not carried out by so someone of sane mind, this we all know it at the heart of the problem. We should make the background checks tougher but the problem is people like this always find a way regardless of guns to carry out their evil acts on innocent people.
    I cannot fathom what pain these parents are going through and hope that with Gods grace they have the love and support to get through this terrible time.
     
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    "We can do better"=I would like to pass some sort of gun law which more than likely will violate your Constitutional rights to bear arms and I am going to use the current hysteria as a springboard to do so.
     
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    I know... let's shut down all the schools... then there would never be another school shooting. After all... since every school shooting is at a school, the problem must be the schools.Problem solved. Glad I could help.
     
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    Brilliant! Germ was right, this isn't that hard after all.
     
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    When I was in 8th grade a kid brought a loaded 38 cal handgun to school everyday for a week. None of us said anything.....nothing ever happened thank goodness.

    This has been going on forever, heck students used to be able to bring guns in their cars and trucks to school and nothing ever happened.
     
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    He said we can no longer do nothing. That means he's going to push for something. Chances are it will be wrong but it will fit his agenda and he'll say he did something.
     
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    My brother and I would drive to school, then go hunting afterward. I helped a PE teacher clean his guns one day during PE class and would even make an occasional gun stock during shop class.

    Anecdotal evidence used to rid society of all tools used for evil purposes will never rid society of evil people. Especially when evil people are the ones in charge.
     
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    But would expect any different??? Sadly, just as with Jovan Belcher, it wasn't the GUN or GUNS, it was the nutjob using them... And until you fix a societal problem, you won't fix these type of problems.... Games where you're killing people, a society where mind-altering drugs are being legalized, a society where premeditated murder is okay as long as the victim hasn't yet been born, etc.... While the terrible senseless tragedy in CT less tears streaming down the face as I couldn't imagine the heartbreak those families would be feeling, the sadness of having to take unopened Christmas presents and figure out what to do, the sadness of not getting to see that little face glow each and every day with happiness, there is another sadness for the 1 million plus babies that are murdered by their own mothers ever year in this country paying a physician to be the "assassin," and do the "dirty work" of the murder.

    Don't blame the guns, blame the society.....
     
  17. michael_pearce

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    Let get to reality here
    This morning I took my 5 year old daughter to her kindergarten class.
    All of the kids were outside playing and just being kids.
    There are normally 3 teachers aids outside watching them and walking the kids in when the bell rings. For the first time since she started school I saw every classes teacher outside infront of the line walking the kids in. Several of them thanked me for being there everyday and waitng until every kid has walked in to the school. I also talked to the principle about making sure that doors are locked and not excessable to be opened from the outside.
    So while waiting I had a conversation with a couple of the teachers who all expressed that they would feel uncomfortable having to be responsible for a gun in the school. BUT would feel better and safer if there was an armed guard at the school making sure that something likewhat happened at sandy hook wont happen again anywhere.
    I am currently trying to schedule a meeting with the school to offer myself FOR FREE to do this job.
     
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    Funny I had that same conversation this morning.
     
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    Thoughts?

     
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