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He just layed down the groundworks

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Skywalker, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. TEmbry

    TEmbry Grizzled Veteran

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    No one is saying teachers have a responsibility to carry and protect the children, just that they should have a right to protect themselves if nothing else.

    No one is claiming teachers have an added responsibility to carry, just that they should be allowed if they deem it necessary.
     
  2. tynimiller

    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

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    *edit: Sorry Germ I meant this for Tembry more than you. Teachers armed is for so much more than protection for themselves.

    IF you taught you'd think differently...my kindergarten teaching wife came home just beside herself and just couldn't imagine what she'd done but she knows without a doubt she'd have done everything she could even if it was futile. She's 100% against owning a gun, but I guarantee she'd fight tooth and nail even if for a second for her kids or any others threatened at the school if she had to.

    I'd have done the same if someting would have occurred during my student teaching. Good teachers love their students and do everything they can for them...hence why Soto was found shielding her students or the special ed teacher with her arms wrapped around one of hers.

    Making it possible for teachers to carry won't solve the issue, but it sure as heck is a step in the right direction if handled correctly. *armed LEOs are a better option, and I feel more secure access/entry is a step needed as well if feasible.
     
  3. Germ

    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    I am married to a teacher, their first actions will be to protect those kids. The whole issue I have is not them protecting themselves, it's when we throw the kids in the mix.

    We don't know how they will react, why put them in that situation, why make them choose.
    Anyone on this board here is going to react to protect those kids, my question and my worry is how a teacher not a LEO responds to the threat.

    If a teachers reaction was to protect themselves, well I guess some would have left their students to save themselves, but you know and I know that is not going to happen.
     
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    tynimiller Legendary Woodsman

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    Germ I feel ya and I believe we're both as close to this as we both are married to teachers. But the big difference is do you think if a law occurs what I bolded would happen? Do you really think we would make them carry? I'll admit the communities that have already made this legal (look it up some already before Sandy Hook had it legal, more now) I pray they've made clear training regulation and screening of any and all personnel that seek to carry at the schools. It cannot be gone about lightly at all, that much I think you'll at minimum agree with.
     
  5. fletch920

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    Would only take a couple people in each school carrying to make a big difference in my opinion. Its not like every teacher would have to be packin.
     
  6. dmen

    dmen Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I agree, plus it would not be the teachers responsibility to confront anyone, but they would be able to protect themselves and their students within their class room. I know if I were given the choice of selecting a teacher for my kids I would pick the teacher who has the capabilities of protecting my child in these deranged circumstances.I would bet a majority of teachers would not feel comfortable carrying, and that is normal IMO. It really is quite sad that we are even having this discussion. God help us all.
     
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    John Galt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    24 pages really?
    How about putting bullet proof doors on class room doors, inside latches teachers could latch just like we did on airliners.

    limit the looses, and the cost.
     

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