I have an Apex 4 pin sight on my bow. The top pin is set @ 20 yards. I went to the range and tried to sight in the next pin for thirty yards. I have the pin as close as it can get to the first pin yet I still have to aim way above the bullseye @ 30 yds to get a hit. Any suggestions?
Top pin should be your 20yd pin, the next pin down should be set for whatever yardage you're setting it up for, repeat.... Picture where that arrow is at 20yds, and then consider where it's going to hit at 30yds... should be a bit lower, therefore you need to put the pin lower in the housing to match up with where that pin hits. Not low enough, then move it a little lower, too low, move it up a touch...
generally the drop off between 20 and 30 yards is not enough to justify setting its own pin. i have a 3 pin sight with 1 for 20-30 the second for 40 and the last for 50
What are your bow specs? When I upgraded from my old FX to my z7x, I could no longer have a 20, 30, 40 setup. The pins were touching and I needed more still. Try a 25 and 40 yard setup. If you go to an indoor 20 yard range, just put your pin below the X. If you're at 30, put the pin above it.
A good rule of thumb for tuning is to follow the arrow. And with a high speed bow you might not need a pin until 25 or 30 yards. I shooting fairly slow 246 fps with my setup so I have a 20, 30, 40 plus one that I move when I shoot longer ranges. good luck.
That may be the case for a speed bow shooting light arrows at high poundage. But in the case of my setup I pull 70 lbs at 30" draw on my Z7X. I shoot 532 grain Easton FMJ 300 spines and a 5 pin sight with pins for every 10 yards; 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50. I use the gaps between pins to mark my 15, 25, 35, 45 yard marks.
Okay, here goes... Realistically speaking, there is no need for a 10yd pin, on almost any bow, including the bows that are only shooting about 200 fps. Because at 10yds, the arrow is just finally getting to the line of sight on a lot of bows. Most bows first pin if optimized should be between 18 and 28 or so yards... A bow at 200 fps, if the first pin is zero'd at 18yds will only have the arrow rise about 2" above the line of sight before getting back down to the LOS, therefore, if you are setting up a 200fps bow, at 18yds, once that arrow hits line of sight at around 10yds, the arrow will only rise 2" and drop back down to the LOS, meaning you have about a 2" range out to that 18yds. Take a bow shooting 320fps, and that range suddenly turns into about 29yds where the arrow stays at or below 2".... For me, this is how I set up pins, and most of my set-ups, I set the first pin at 22-25yds, and vary the distance of the second pin, to what gives me a good hunting window of opportunity for that range or error. Most of my 280-ish fps bows are set-up at 24-32-40-48 type ranges, and I know that I have about 1" to make up for for every yard outside of 32... I'll never set a bow up with a 10yds pin, and I'll never set a bow up with 15yds between pins, because that leaves too much room for error for me personally.
move your pins in whatever direction the arrow hits. in other words, if arrow hits high, move the pin up. if arrow hits low, move the pin down. if hitting left, move the pin left. if hitting right, move the pin right.
I have found that most that state they do not need a pin for every 10 yrd increment either #1 have an improperly tuned bow or #2 have very poor form and are moving their bow arm when shooting. I have shot just about every bow from the X-force to the Monster series and can say for the optimal accuracy you will still have pins spaced every 10 yrds. And as far as the PSE claim, one pin to 40 yards, ummm, impossible by the laws of physics! Sorry, just too much arch in an arrow for this to be possible.
Agreed!!!! I've got 4-6 inches of drop between 10 yard increments. Granted I'm shooting heavy arrows (532 gr FMJ's) but I couldn't picture my setup without 10 yard pin increments.
Your entire sight housing may need to be moved up, then resight your first pin, then that should maybe give you more room to spread out the rest. Also, dont try and aim above the bull to get a hit on it, aim at it, then walk your pin down until you can aim at the bull and get a hit. As someone else said, follow the arrow, if the arrow hits low, pin should move down.
Man you guys went way overboard with the reply's and gave him way too much to think about. He is obviously new to bowhunting or shooting in any fashion. He was simply moving his pins in the wrong direction.
man dogfish did you ever hit the nail on the head !!!!!! poor kid is probably wondering what he got himself into. your answer was very simple as i would hope mine was also.
Thank you for all the replies. I finally got the 30 and 40 yard pins zoned in. I'm going to leave the 50 alone for now. I think the farthest I want to shoot right now is 40 yards.
Just remember, archery is not rocket science! Heck, us moneys have done it for years! LOL!! Glad you got it fixed.
